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re: Is addiction a choice or not?
Posted on 8/15/15 at 10:42 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 8/15/15 at 10:42 am to BluegrassBelle
No.
It's a choice to use, no one chooses to be addicted. Addiction is just the negative affect of using.
Most addicts/drunks believed they were the one person in the world who could use to excess and avoid addiction.
It's a choice to use, no one chooses to be addicted. Addiction is just the negative affect of using.
Most addicts/drunks believed they were the one person in the world who could use to excess and avoid addiction.
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:32 am to BluegrassBelle
Using/drinking is a choice (until it isn't). Becoming addicted is not.
I can't drink socially. If I drink any alcohol I'll be drinking all day every day within 3 months. The only way I can live productively is not to put any drugs or alcohol into my body.
I am an addict. I didn't chose to be. I do choose to not drink or use, but getting to that point took nearly 20 years of gradual self destruction, rehab stays and more recently AA/NA.
I can't drink socially. If I drink any alcohol I'll be drinking all day every day within 3 months. The only way I can live productively is not to put any drugs or alcohol into my body.
I am an addict. I didn't chose to be. I do choose to not drink or use, but getting to that point took nearly 20 years of gradual self destruction, rehab stays and more recently AA/NA.
This post was edited on 8/15/15 at 11:36 am
Posted on 8/15/15 at 2:59 pm to GeauxToBed
It's a mixture IMHO.
AS I've said a fw times I'm a recovered drug addict. I am a smoker as well.. i probably smoke a half a pack of cigs a day. Not over the top but i'm not a president Bartlett 'i only smoke 2 cigs a day" guy. I'll run through 10-15 a day.
I say that to say I see people comparing nicotine addiction to say herion addiction and it's laugahble. It's just not the same. I have no doubt that if i had any real incentive to quit cigs i could flush my carton down the toilet and deal with it. I've done it before. I use them as a crux to deal with the stress of my job instead of cursing everyone out.
For instance if you do enough cocaine/crack, your body stops naturally producing serotonin, the hormone that regulates your happiness. You literally cannot be happy unless you are doing dope.
When I was really bad in my addiction, with my job i don't get paid every 2 weeks or every week I get paid whenever a client pays a bill. I have a paypal debit card so it got to the point that whenever i got an email from paypal, my body would just lock up becuase it was drug time lol I could be perfectly fine, making bacon and eggs in the morning working, doing my thing, I get the email that I got 500 dollars in paypal and the ONLY thing I could think about was getting dope.
It got so bad that I gave my mother my debit card and told her to give me a certain amount a week so that i could pay bills and i got the email still and got so hard up that i broke in my mom's house to steal my debit card lol. I can laugh about it now but that's pitiful.
I'd be going to the dope man's house crying because i didn't wanna go but i had to go. like the car was automatically driving itself.
I'm pretty sure out there there is the right combination of will power that it takes to get off hard drugs once you start but i couldn't find it and i'm a strong willed motherfuccker. 9 years ago I was so broke i had to walk to the libary to use the computer to check emails and now I have 9 programmers and grahpic designers working for me and make a great living and i did all of it with no help from anyone, and i still could not find the right combination of willpower it took to overcome crack addition. For me it was feeling handcuffs for the first time. I got in just enough trouble to where if I got my shite together i could have a normal life and no one would know the difference, but enough trouble to where shite had got real for the first time. Being drug tested for 2 years twice a eek and knowing one failed test would put you in jail pretty much did the trick for me. Now when I think of drugs I think of jail and frick that lol. Plus the quality of dope has dropped significantly from 6 years ago and the price has risen way too much to make it any fun anymore lol
Cigs don't do that to you. I'll have trouble sleeping a few days, I'll get a little body sorness but that's it.
see i'm not a polysubstance abuser. Drinking doesn't do this to me. right now i have a cabinet iwth southern comofrt, some triple secc, some grey goose, a 30 pack of miller light, some crown royal, pineapple captain Morgan rum and i think the last time i had a drink was maybe sometime in the middle of july and i had a half glass of crown and coke. I don't like the strong of alcohol to drink it everyday. its too damn strong. Ill drink wine if anything
But at the same time you could probably do coke and go home and go to bed, i go to the ATM lol. I know i can't do coke. It's not a willpower thing.
AS I've said a fw times I'm a recovered drug addict. I am a smoker as well.. i probably smoke a half a pack of cigs a day. Not over the top but i'm not a president Bartlett 'i only smoke 2 cigs a day" guy. I'll run through 10-15 a day.
I say that to say I see people comparing nicotine addiction to say herion addiction and it's laugahble. It's just not the same. I have no doubt that if i had any real incentive to quit cigs i could flush my carton down the toilet and deal with it. I've done it before. I use them as a crux to deal with the stress of my job instead of cursing everyone out.
For instance if you do enough cocaine/crack, your body stops naturally producing serotonin, the hormone that regulates your happiness. You literally cannot be happy unless you are doing dope.
When I was really bad in my addiction, with my job i don't get paid every 2 weeks or every week I get paid whenever a client pays a bill. I have a paypal debit card so it got to the point that whenever i got an email from paypal, my body would just lock up becuase it was drug time lol I could be perfectly fine, making bacon and eggs in the morning working, doing my thing, I get the email that I got 500 dollars in paypal and the ONLY thing I could think about was getting dope.
It got so bad that I gave my mother my debit card and told her to give me a certain amount a week so that i could pay bills and i got the email still and got so hard up that i broke in my mom's house to steal my debit card lol. I can laugh about it now but that's pitiful.
I'd be going to the dope man's house crying because i didn't wanna go but i had to go. like the car was automatically driving itself.
I'm pretty sure out there there is the right combination of will power that it takes to get off hard drugs once you start but i couldn't find it and i'm a strong willed motherfuccker. 9 years ago I was so broke i had to walk to the libary to use the computer to check emails and now I have 9 programmers and grahpic designers working for me and make a great living and i did all of it with no help from anyone, and i still could not find the right combination of willpower it took to overcome crack addition. For me it was feeling handcuffs for the first time. I got in just enough trouble to where if I got my shite together i could have a normal life and no one would know the difference, but enough trouble to where shite had got real for the first time. Being drug tested for 2 years twice a eek and knowing one failed test would put you in jail pretty much did the trick for me. Now when I think of drugs I think of jail and frick that lol. Plus the quality of dope has dropped significantly from 6 years ago and the price has risen way too much to make it any fun anymore lol
Cigs don't do that to you. I'll have trouble sleeping a few days, I'll get a little body sorness but that's it.
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I can't drink socially. If I drink any alcohol I'll be drinking all day every day within 3 months. The only way I can live productively is not to put any drugs or alcohol into my body.
see i'm not a polysubstance abuser. Drinking doesn't do this to me. right now i have a cabinet iwth southern comofrt, some triple secc, some grey goose, a 30 pack of miller light, some crown royal, pineapple captain Morgan rum and i think the last time i had a drink was maybe sometime in the middle of july and i had a half glass of crown and coke. I don't like the strong of alcohol to drink it everyday. its too damn strong. Ill drink wine if anything
But at the same time you could probably do coke and go home and go to bed, i go to the ATM lol. I know i can't do coke. It's not a willpower thing.
This post was edited on 8/15/15 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 8/16/15 at 5:49 am to vengeanceofrain
In my bout with addiction (any and all kinds of speed) the biggest thing that's helped me quit is just being honest about my addiction to myself and friends and family.
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