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re: Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution
Posted on 4/6/14 at 2:46 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 4/6/14 at 2:46 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Explain?
Quite a lot of messed up things happen in life?
If you were designing a program to draw a perfect circle and you ended up with an oval then something's wrong with the program. You would try to correct it to get to that perfect shape. You wouldn't wait for the oval to figure out it was supposed to be a circle.
If the point of life is to get from birth to death as easily as possible, then there wouldn't be any hardships. If the point of life is to experience hardships and overcome them, there wouldn't people people who coast through a carefree life where little to no adversity is faced. But both happen.
What kind of programmer would design a program where anything at all can and does happen? What would be the point?
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Posted on 4/6/14 at 2:51 pm to Loathor
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What kind of programmer would design a program where anything at all can and does happen? What would be the point?
If everything was perfect, we wouldn't be forced to find love. God is Love. Now let your search begin.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 2:54 pm to LukeSidewalker
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If everything was perfect, we wouldn't be forced to find love. God is Love. Now let your search begin.
What?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 2:57 pm to TeLeFaWx
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You don't believe in evolution? How old are you?
18. I had a class my junior year on Atheism and the theory of evolution (Christian School), and the evidence just weighs to far in the favor of intelligent design. I know most people would say, "Oh you learned this at a Christian School", but the teacher who taught the class actually worked under people like Ravi Zacharias and etc, and he knew both sides of the argument and presented it in an unbiased way.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:00 pm to DirtyDawg
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the evidence just weighs to far in the favor of intelligent design
Such as?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:02 pm to Kentucker
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It's that simple.
Well this is the age we are in. You have to go with the hand you are dealt. This is the real question we should be answering as this is the crossroads right now. I am gonna guess living in the ascendancy is the correct answer but we may have passed that.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:04 pm to Loathor
I'll have to go look in my notes ( Class was over 2 years ago)
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:12 pm to Loathor
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What kind of programmer would design a program where anything at all can and does happen? What would be the point?
The problem with evil I see. The reason all of this happens is because we live in such a fallen world. God made the program perfect at first, but gave humans the option of free will. They took free will and the world fell into sin. The point of the Creator doing this is to allow humans to freely pick God. Love without free will is not love at all. Yes there is evil in this world, but God provides a way into a perfect world (Heaven).
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:14 pm to DirtyDawg
My big problem with intelligent design is if humanity is the end goal of the program then that is a crap ton of wasted energy and time to get here. Humans are, what? 30,000 years old? The universe is 10 to 20 billion years old. Humans have only been a thing for less than the blink of an eye in the entirety of the program.
If we were to last for another 30,000 years we still wouldn't be a noticeable blip on the time line. To assume that we are the end game just seems highly vain.
If we were to last for another 30,000 years we still wouldn't be a noticeable blip on the time line. To assume that we are the end game just seems highly vain.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:18 pm to Loathor
All the Bible tells us is that God wants us with him in eternity. It doesn't say we're the end game of all this. For all we know God could be planning something far greater than we can comprehend.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:23 pm to Loathor
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If we were to last for another 30,000 years we still wouldn't be a noticeable blip on the time line. To assume that we are the end game just seems highly vain.
God really likes dinosaurs, we are just the intermission while his mom calls him to dinner. Pretty soon god will return and get back to playing with dinosaurs.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:28 pm to Loathor
quote:Maybe there is not a point. That's the point.
What kind of programmer would design a program where anything at all can and does happen? What would be the point?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:37 pm to Cheese Grits
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God really likes dinosaurs, we are just the intermission while his mom calls him to dinner. Pretty soon god will return and get back to playing with dinosaurs.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:39 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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But who taught god programming?
Something had to be at the beginning of everything. Otherwise there would still be nothing, as nothing can't create something - 'cause, you know, it's nothing.
So if something had to 'be' before there was anything (because otherwise there would still be nothing), many philosophers (and even logisticians and some scientists) feel there had to be a god, creator, or something that set everything in motion.
The definition of that 'something' that kicked it all off is the great debate. But many (religious and not) feel very strongly, based on what we currently know, that something had to be there at the beginning of everything.
Anyway, just a thought. Carry on.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:40 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Why can't the answer be that God created this wonderfully complex program called the Universe and all we see and know are just parts of his programming at work?
Welcome to Deism.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:42 pm to DirtyDawg
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All the Bible tells us is that God wants us with him in eternity. It doesn't say we're the end game of all this. For all we know God could be planning something far greater than we can comprehend.
Or, we're just a footnote. And by placing your hopes on a prize at the end of your time here, you could be enjoying what limited existence you have.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:43 pm to MIZ_COU
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Maybe there is not a point. That's the point.
The point of life is living. It's that simple.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:45 pm to Loathor
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The point of life is living. It's that simple.
So it doesn't matter how you live, just THAT you live, and live for as long as possible, or what?
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:49 pm to GoldenDawg
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So it doesn't matter how you live, just THAT you live, and live for as long as possible, or what?
Pretty much.
Posted on 4/6/14 at 3:51 pm to Loathor
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Pretty much.
I think there is a user's manual
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