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Independent candidates: What if...?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 3:31 pm
So, Trump calls on Sanders to run as an independent, since he has been "mistreated" by the Democratic party. Of course, this is a self-serving gambit designed to split the Democratic vote for him.
What if, though, BOTH parties' runners-up ran as independents, and we had 4 candidates in the general. How do you think a Clinton-Sanders-Trump-Cruz orgy of politicking would be?
I honestly don't know how that would shake out, but it sounds epic.
What if, though, BOTH parties' runners-up ran as independents, and we had 4 candidates in the general. How do you think a Clinton-Sanders-Trump-Cruz orgy of politicking would be?
I honestly don't know how that would shake out, but it sounds epic.
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 3:37 pm to Ag Zwin
No one would get to the 270 electoral voted needed to win the Presidency, so it would go to a vote in the House I think (or something like that). Whichever party controls the House would likely elect their establishment candidate (Hillary for Dems, anyone but Trump for Republicans).
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:12 pm to Jon Ham
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Whichever party controls the House would likely elect their establishment candidate
Paul Ryan would be kingmaker.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 4:47 pm to Evolved Simian
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Paul Ryan would be kingmaker.
Only partially. The House can only consider the top 3 electoral vote winners. Using the primaries as a guide, that would almost certainly be Clinton, Trump, and Cruz - with the result being President Cruz.
The FAR more interesting proceeding would be the selection of the Vice-President. The House selects the President, but their running mate does not automatically become the VP. The Vice President is selected by the Senate and they can only choose between the top TWO candidates.
Again, using the primary elections as a guide, you would probably see the Electoral college totals go Clinton, Trump, Cruz. Cruz would almost certainly be elected President, but his VP candidate would be out of contention - leaving him forced to work with the Trump VP candidate or even potentially a VP from the Democratic party.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 5:13 pm to JustGetItRight
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Only partially. The House can only consider the top 3 electoral vote winners. Using the primaries as a guide, that would almost certainly be Clinton, Trump, and Cruz - with the result being President Cruz.
Did not know that part about only the top 3. Good find.
But, since the states vote en bloc, and it requires a majority, I really don't know how that would pan out. I don't see Trump or Cruz deferring to each other, nor do I see Clinton dropping out. I could see her coming in last, simply because of the power of smaller mid-continent states (generally more conservative), but, again, I don't see the logjam getting broken by the candidates themselves. The dealmaking would be off the charts.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:30 pm to Ag Zwin
The problem would be getting on the ballot. States control who's on the ballot, and most make it so hard for 3rd party candidates that I don't know how you could have either runner-up on the ballot in more than a handful of states.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:41 pm to SCLibertarian
I believe the deadline has already passed in several states to get on the November ballot as an independent.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 12:48 pm to Ag Zwin
Sanders will support Clinton but I can't see Trump and Cruz making a deal. Both have giant egos and I can see either of them in a third party campaign against the other.
Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be at a disadvantage because of the acrimonious campaign by everyone involved. The RNC does not have a handle on the candidates as does the DNC.
There are going to be a lot of hurt feelings after the Republican Convention in Cleveland, I think. Trump is forcing the GOP to change and a lot of the good old boys in the party don't like it one little bit.
Whoever wins the Republican nomination will be at a disadvantage because of the acrimonious campaign by everyone involved. The RNC does not have a handle on the candidates as does the DNC.
There are going to be a lot of hurt feelings after the Republican Convention in Cleveland, I think. Trump is forcing the GOP to change and a lot of the good old boys in the party don't like it one little bit.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:45 pm to Kentucker
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There are going to be a lot of hurt feelings after the Republican Convention in Cleveland, I think.
I don't think so now. Trump is going to have it wrapped up before the convention. The party will grudgingly fall in line and Trump will be magnanimous. They need each other. The party needs unity not only for the Presidential race but also for the House and Senate and Trump needs the insiders to work the general election ground game.
They may hate it, but they will make nice and make it work.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:53 pm to Ag Zwin
Only way Trumpf can win. But it's clever. No way Sanders see's thru this
Posted on 4/29/16 at 7:32 am to MIZ_COU
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Only way Trumpf can win.
The funny part is you actually believe this.
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