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re: If people are born gay, how do we explain the Transexual movement?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:50 pm to sorantable
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:50 pm to sorantable
They yes are born gay or tranny but no it is not necessarily genetic. It is regardless of the cause (genetic or some frick up from something exposed to them in the womb) a mental disorder and it needs to be treated as such IMO.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:37 am to 7Dollarbill
This is the way I look at it: as far as I know, they haven't found a gene for liking mayonnaise. But I've never liked that stuff. There are no psychological factors in my past, no trauma, or indoctrination that made me predisposed to hate mayo. Everyone else in my family likes it fine. I'm the only one.
So while I admit it's possible for someone to develop a hate for mayo if they were forced to eat extreme amounts or maybe because they worked in a mayo factory for years and couldn't get the smell out of their nostrils, but not me. I was just born not liking mayonnaise. Same way I was born not liking cocks.
So while I admit it's possible for someone to develop a hate for mayo if they were forced to eat extreme amounts or maybe because they worked in a mayo factory for years and couldn't get the smell out of their nostrils, but not me. I was just born not liking mayonnaise. Same way I was born not liking cocks.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:10 am to sorantable
If people were born gay, the most there would have ever been were the first 2... whoever you think they are... Cave people, Adam & Eve.. etc.. etc... IMO
Look across nature... all animals. Male/female mating and bonding is natural. Yes, there are a few exceptions but they are EXCEPTIONS.
I don't think homosexual is a learned behavior. Many are born that way. To think we are all born that way and yet the human population has grown to these proportions is absolutely idiotic.
Look across nature... all animals. Male/female mating and bonding is natural. Yes, there are a few exceptions but they are EXCEPTIONS.
I don't think homosexual is a learned behavior. Many are born that way. To think we are all born that way and yet the human population has grown to these proportions is absolutely idiotic.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:24 am to sorantable
SoRNTBL trolls again.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:33 am to sorantable
Transgenderism has nothing to do with homosexuality
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:35 am to sorantable
Like DC said, it's not binary, it's on a continuum and it's pushed in certain directions by the influence of epigenetic factors.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:00 pm to Bama Bird
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Transgenderism has nothing to do with homosexuality
I agree. Why do we see the GLTB community grouped as such?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:04 pm to sorantable
I don't know. I think it takes away from the legitimacy of the LGB movement, however.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:14 pm to Bama Bird
I completely agree
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:45 pm to sorantable
I'm both gay and straight, I have broken the spectrum and now Kinsey must pay for her shortcomings.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:32 pm to DCRebel
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Sexuality isn't binary. It's not like you simply are straight or gay. Sexuality exists on a spectrum. LINK This is how you can explain things like transsexuality, bisexuality, etc.
I prefer to think of sexual orientation as a continuum. Imagine a line with heterosexuality at one end and homosexuality at the other. All of us lie at some point on the line. Most are oriented to the heterosexual end or close to it but a significant number are closer to the homosexual end.
Bisexuality is probably the dominant sexual orientation but there are the, what I call, super heterosexuals and super homosexuals. These are individuals whose orientations are so rigid, pardon the pun, that they would not even experiment with bisexuality under any circumstances.
I think transsexualism is not a sexual orientation but, rather, a gender identification. I think it's often confused with homosexuality or bisexuality but is a distinct human condition.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:35 pm to sorantable
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Why do we see the GLTB community grouped as such?
Cuz they don't all don't fit within the generally accepted gender roles, even if they aren't all that related.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:39 pm to Duke
They're just so radically different to me. It would be like having a community called the C(hristian)M(uslim)A(theist) group just because they're all faith systems. It wouldn't do any of the groups any good to be grouped as such.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:41 pm to Kentucker
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These are individuals whose orientations are so rigid, pardon the pun, that they would not even experiment with bisexuality under any circumstances.
the only thing i think i can debate on that is how many fall on the super hetero side of the spectrum in comparison to the super homo. Has to be lopsided. that may change as homosexuality becomes more acceptable and there is less of a stigmatism attached to it.
interesting thought one way or another.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:41 pm to sorantable
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They're just so radically different to me.
I agree.
I figure they have ended up together, because their end goal is the same. Acceptance.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:50 pm to Duke
I guess so. G and L is easier for me to accept than T and B.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:50 pm to 3nOut
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the only thing i think i can debate on that is how many fall on the super hetero side of the spectrum in comparison to the super homo. Has to be lopsided. that may change as homosexuality becomes more acceptable and there is less of a stigmatism attached to it.
Yes, there are far more super heterosexuals than super homosexuals if we look at them as distinct groups. The biggest group, however, is probably bisexuals, using a very strict definition. That definition would include experimentation at some point in one's life and/or certain circumstances, such as prison, wherein one would engage in sex with a person of the same sex even though he or she had a strong preference for someone of the opposite sex.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:31 pm to Kentucker
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Yes, there are far more super heterosexuals than super homosexuals if we look at them as distinct groups. The biggest group, however, is probably bisexuals, using a very strict definition. That definition would include experimentation at some point in one's life and/or certain circumstances, such as prison, wherein one would engage in sex with a person of the same sex even though he or she had a strong preference for someone of the opposite sex.
I still think super hetero would be the largest group.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:45 pm to sorantable
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Why do we see the GLTB community grouped as such?
well, people can make a case for homosexuality for anyone who has changed their gender.
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