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I need to vent about stupid paperwork! Who is with me?

Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:13 am
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:13 am
I have taught for more than fifteen years. I certified in two fields as well as National Board Certified. I have a masters and have been accepted to a PHD program.

I have had my background checks done by local, state and federal authorities as well as interpol.

I have never even been convicted of a misdemeanor. I had one speeding ticket in my life, and it was removed after going to a class.

Yet I still cannot teach in Pennsylvania.

After Sandusky, they passed a new law. You have to mail a paper form to your former employer where they again verify you never had any convictions of child abuse. Your old employer has to mail it back.

Ten years ago, I taught in Canberra, Australia. Now I have to find someone who will receive this form, go back through ten years of records, fill out the form and send it back to me.

It is about to make my head explode. Especially since I have already been teaching for the last nine years in the United States.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:25 am to
TPS Reports, man...
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:32 am to
LOL

At least you do those while working.

This #@%@#%% is keeping me from that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119222 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:47 am to
quote:

After Sandusky, they passed a new law. You have to mail a paper form to your former employer where they again verify you never had any convictions of child abuse. Your old employer has to mail it back.

Ten years ago, I taught in Canberra, Australia. Now I have to find someone who will receive this form, go back through ten years of records, fill out the form and send it back to me.

It is about to make my head explode. Especially since I have already been teaching for the last nine years in the United States.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


You need something from 10 years ago specifically, not just your last 9 years in the US? So, all of your previous employers?
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:03 am to
Yes, all of them.

The US ones are no problem.

The Australia one will take weeks --- if I am lucky.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:08 am to
quote:

After Sandusky, they passed a new law. You have to mail a paper form to your former employer where they again verify you never had any convictions of child abuse. Your old employer has to mail it back.



Wow, that's some all around stupid right there. Your previous employer isn't going to have any better information than they can get themselves.

In Alabama you've got to submit a fingerprint and the State Bureau of Investigation does a criminal background check. May take a little while, but otherwise it is easy on both the applicant and the employer and unlike what you're going through it will actually find convictions.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:24 am to
Just tell them you're the ex-Sec of State & BOOM, you're in.
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

After Sandusky, they passed a new law. You have to mail a paper form to your former employer where they again verify you never had any convictions of child abuse. Your old employer has to mail it back.


I get the reasons behind this policy, but wouldn't the FBI be much more equipped to know if you've been convicted of child abuse? There was an Au Bon Pain worker on campus who was under investigation for it and no one ever knew until he was formally indicted. Employers don't know everything.

Have you taken the "Sandusky Test" (Preventing Child Abuse at Penn State)?
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
5700 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:09 pm to
Do you teach English? Check your second sentence.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:47 pm to
Just omit working in Australia from your job record. You are under no obligation to disclose what you were doing there.

BTW I seem to recall you are one of the leftists on the PT board. Irony at its finest
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:35 pm to
quote:


BTW I seem to recall you are one of the leftists on the PT board. Irony at its finest


You recall incorrectly.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Do you teach English? Check your second sentence.


I teach ESL...



ir a la mierda culo
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99065 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 3:56 pm to
Obviously it sucks and it's shitty that there's not a way they can expedite that process.

This:

quote:

I have had my background checks done by local, state and federal authorities as well as interpol.



Should've been enough to clear you from an international aspect. Or at least give you temp employment in the process while you get the additional info from Australia.

All of that said, especially having worked in education long enough to see some really fricked up shite, I understand the need for the process.

quote:

I teach ESL...


Some of my favorite kids to work with.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 3:58 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 4:10 pm to
Thanks!

I feel much better about it now.

I just had the need to vent and did not want the neighbors to think I was crazy...

I would much prefer a message board to think that!
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:22 pm to
Oh well I must be incorrect.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 3:22 pm to
Straya cunt
This post was edited on 2/10/16 at 3:25 pm
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22455 posts
Posted on 2/10/16 at 5:59 pm to
Kids got a great kick asking me if had seen a map of Tazzi and which team I rooted for.
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