re: How many thousands of years until current believers give up?

Like my mother says, "I try my best to live without sin, and it's a full-time job. I don't have time in my day to tell someone else how they need to be living theirs."

I find that gets to the crux of my problem with a lot of people with the crusader mentality. They want to save you from yourself, while their own house burns around them.

Their eyes are riddled with sawdust as they try to tell you the proper way to see.

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I certainly have no problem admitting that. Christianity hasn't been very polite during our past few encounters.

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Lol, talk about a double standard. You create thread after thread after thread crushing Christianity, God, and all things religious and then have the gall to blame Christianity BC it hasn't been polite????

The simple truth is that God has standards and laws that do not play well into today's SJW society where everyone is trying to convince themselves there is no right or wrong except those darn Christians.... they are horrible, delusional, peasants- Which couldn't be further from the truth. We arent the ones filled with hate. Just read this thread to get a snapshot of how so many people feel today towards something they think they are experts at, but have never really taken the time to explore thoroughly. They latch onto one ex-religious person who claims he knows everything about Christianity (and obviously doesn't) and use that to make them feel better about their own sin. I challenge everyone in here to open the KJV Bible, it doesn't matter where and read a couple verses. Then flip to a total different place, and read a few verses. You will see that The Word of God is not weak, diluted, or contradictory to itself. Quite the opposite. It is powerful and true. And it will challenge your heart if you listen and think about what you read.

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I challenge everyone in here to open the KJV Bible, it doesn't matter where and read a couple verses. Then flip to a total different place, and read a few verses. You will see that The Word of God is not weak, diluted, or contradictory to itself.

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LOL

Like the contradiction found in the very first two chapters?!?!?! FFS

Genesis 1:11-12
11 And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants[e] yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth.” And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

The very next chapter. Can't even get the order of things right.
Genesis 2:5-7
5 When no bush of the field[a] was yet in the land[b] and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, 6 and a mist[c] was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground— 7 then the Lord God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.

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we just need to spackle on some more faith.

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well, as they say......sum time it bes like dat!

None of those accounts contradict each other. It's like me telling you I went to town today. Then telling someone else I went to Walgreens today. Then telling someone else I cut grass today. Then you come back and tell me I'm a liar cuz I told you I was in town today... in fact, I did all 3. But u are so intent on disproving me,you latch onto one snippet of what I did just to discredit me. Why do you think all of the Gospels are included? They each complement each other to give us a better account of those days leading up to, and directly after the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. There is no contradiction. Quite the opposite. Y'all can all laugh and scorn all you want, but that doesn't change the truth.

...and I didn't log off to run from recourse. I did it cuz I've got to work. I don't get to sit on TD all day and bash people like some of y'all do.

You talk as if you think I'm a Christian bc I'm just following him blindly. I've read all of those verses you've quoted hundreds of times. I've also read the rest of the Bible, and know that they are all validated time and time again throughout the Bible. God has proven to me many times throughout my life how A)real he is, B)loving (and just) he is, C)how much I (and we all) need him, and D)that he and his word is undeniable truth.

The Bible supports itself. It doesn't need "spiritual gymnastics"... if it is read correctly and thoroughly, the truths reveal themselves. I wont deny that there are many perversions of his word out there, and I understand why people who have been exposed to those have a skeptical eye towards God. I also know through my own journey that if someone genuinely seeks the bottom-line truth, they can easily find it in his word. God's will for us, and our path to salvation through his sacrifice as well as well as our standing with him both before and after salvation are very clearly defined and easily understood.

Now, I also will not deny that there are some deeper things about God that we cant comprehend in our human, sinful, limited minds. But that's where faith comes in. And there is nothing wrong with a creation trusting it's creator even though it doesn't understand fully. One day we will. I have a child that I love dearly and would give my life for. I feed that child every day, and even though his mind is not able to comprehend where all of that food comes from, he eats what I give him because he trusts me and my love for him. He's learned to trust me because I show my love and give him cause to. God has shown his love for us time and time again, and to the point where he did give his life for us. but it wasn't just a superficial sacrifice. He actually did something way better than be a marter. He conquered death and hell for us and rose again so we might have eternal fellowship with him, and not have to pay our own eternal price for our disobedience and denial. All he asks is that we confess our need for him, believe what he says is true, and trust him. It's so simple, yet so hard for people to deny their own pride and submit to him.

yeah but could god make a boulder so big even he couldnt move it?

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Because it's the truth you choose to see. You, like most, Christians hold the bible as a divinely inspired holy book. Whether or not the hands of the authors were "guided by some higher power" no one can truly say, because we don't know. What we DO know is that the bible is a book...written by men...over the period of +/- 1,500 years. You find absolute truth in the bible...I see stories of men living to 950+ years old, like Noah and Methuselah, and talking donkeys.

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Yes. I do believe it is divinely inspired and written by God himself through the hands of specific men. The very fact that it was written over a span of 1500+ years and it supports itself from Genesis to Revelation points to it's divinity. Along with the hundreds of prophesies foretold thousands of years ahead of time, which has already come to pass. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

As far as men living to 950+ years old and talking donkeys (which is only the tip of the iceberg of amazing miracles in the Bible)... I believe the God who created the laws of physics and time can alter those things to his will whenever and however he wants. He is not limited by the physical constraints you and I are.