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re: Hindus Banned from Arkansas Gun Range
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:03 pm to Arkla Missy
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:03 pm to Arkla Missy
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You missed the point entirely.
No, I didn't. You're insinuating the same thing about Port Arthur that I insinuated about Arkansas. Many natives of the area would be offended at the sentiment. I, however, am not. I've only lived here 5 months and I pretty much agree with your analysis of the area. I also don't have an insecurities about having any racial biases, so again, I'm not offended despite your attempt.
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... that she wasn't able to distinguish between Saudi & Indian descent, visually, I would guess most westerners who are not in the presence of either on a consistent basis would have difficulty doing so just based on a cursory look. ... I suppose that makes her an idiot to people like you, but I'm just gonna take a guess & say, nah, she's probably not.
Statistically, you're more likely to be a victim of violent gun crime at the hands of a black person than a muslim in America. Would you still share the same sentiment if she refused to allow black people in the shooting range? I realize that the latter is racial discrimination and former is religious discrimination, but in this case it actually was racial discrimination as she deemed them Muslim based on their race. I assume she didn't have people fill out a questionnaire regarding their religious beliefs (obviously or she would have known they were Hindu). And since we're painting with such a broad stroke as to lump Indian Hindus into the Muslim category, would you be okay with having "whites only" businesses around town?
I apologize for not addressing all your points. I'm on my phone so this was laborious enough for me.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:04 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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I'm gonna need more pics to decide but her being from Arkansas is a nod to the no direction
** I am positive she would be heartbroken, no doubt, just as the rest of us homely Arky girls.
... (Extreme sarcasm ... clarified just for you brilliant TN studs. ... Oops, sorry, sarcasm again.)** 
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:16 pm to Arkla Missy
Wonder how much sleep she's lost, not lettin' the mudlims shoot?
Looks like, uhh, not much.
Looks like, uhh, not much.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:18 pm to Arkla Missy
Oh come on, a little bit of a shot across my bow was to be expected but why, why did you have to bring our recent unfortunate events against Florida into it? That's over the line!
I would've NEVER brought up Clint Sterner (Sp?) or the countless consequences of motorcycle related incidents but YOU just haddddd to go there well I tell you what......
I would've NEVER brought up Clint Sterner (Sp?) or the countless consequences of motorcycle related incidents but YOU just haddddd to go there well I tell you what......
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:34 pm to Wishnitwas1998
I'd be willing to bet she's reloading her scatter gun, run! 
Posted on 1/15/15 at 7:50 pm to Ole Geauxt
Oh I'm fully aware she will own me
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:34 pm to Ole Geauxt
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There's a lot of poppas and grand poppas turning over in their grave right now.
I hope you're not advocating that we take lessons on cultural matters from our ancestors. They did a lot of things right, but this area is one of their biggest weaknesses. Many were probably turning in their graves as well when we allowed blacks to vote and desegregated schools. She may have a right to run her business based upon her misinformed and culturally insensitive values, but that doesn't change the fact that this instance was quite the display of ignorance and worthy of mockery.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 8:59 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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She may have a right to run her business
Kinda like finding 1 pretty lil seed in a big pile of coyote shite.
Can you see it, it's really hard to find in all the doo doo.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:20 pm to Ole Geauxt
I seem to have underestimated my counterparts in this discussion.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:32 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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No, I didn't. You're insinuating the same thing about Port Arthur that I insinuated about Arkansas. Many natives of the area would be offended at the sentiment. I, however, am not. I've only lived here 5 months and I pretty much agree with your analysis of the area. I also don't have an insecurities about having any racial biases, so again, I'm not offended despite your attempt.
Yes, you are missing the point, which is bizarre considering my entire post was dedicated to the fact that anti-Muslim sentiment exists in many places in this county, not just Arkansas. ... I cited several places I've lived to attest to that, since I won't speak for places I haven't lived or visited often & have either direct experience with that sentiment or have a pretty clear grasp of the overall mentality. I guess you missed all of that because you're on your phone & say it is difficult to address those points from my post ... again, which were the vast majority of it ... I won't repeat myself since I don't do inane arguments for the sake of it when I have already explained my opinion, thoroughly, and the main points are not being addressed, for whatever reason. My post is still there if & when you choose to read & acknowledge those points that you have not. ...
For whatever reason, you continue to want to be insulted.
... I wasn't intending anything I said as an insult, but since you insist on it, sorry, I guess? 
... And I didn't insinuate anything either; I stated it rather clearly - it's laughable when someone makes such broad stroked insults to begin with, but particularly while being in a location that has many of the same derogatory traits as what you were condemning. ... Your painting the entire state of Arkansas as a Muslim hating one is baseless, without credibility, and is simply wrong. The fact that you are stating it from a particular region that I am familiar with and with the mentality of some of the people there is amusing. If that's insulting, sorry; if not, as you say it isn't, great. There should be no problem. Not sure why you're wanting there to be one. quote:
Statistically, you're more likely to be a victim of violent gun crime at the hands of a black person than a muslim in America. Would you still share the same sentiment if she refused to allow black people in the shooting range?
I don't put much stock in statistics concerning issues like this, or being struck by lightning, or being in a plane crash, etc., etc., because if you happen to be the unlucky one on the shite end of the stick in any of those instances, stats don't help. And I'd prefer not to be shot by anyone regardless of race, religion, etc. Also, I believe I statistically have a better chance of being shot by a white person in America, so should refusing to ban whites from a shooting range be ok? Is it going to hurt less? Am I going to die from one & not the other? What's your point? ... See what I mean about stats? Great for some things; completely useless bullshite for many others.
What sentiment did I share? That private business owners of every race, religion, gender, etc., in this country have rights? That's the sentiment I share, just as everyone has the right to choose where they do business or not, and the right to boycott. All of this was mentioned in my prior post, which I suppose you missed, being on your phone & all. ... You sound like a big government kind of guy. I am, generally, ... no, pretty much always opposed to that.
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I realize that the latter is racial discrimination and former is religious discrimination, but in this case it actually was racial discrimination as she deemed them Muslim based on their race. I assume she didn't have people fill out a questionnaire regarding their religious beliefs (obviously or she would have known they were Hindu)
I have no idea what her SOP for her business is. I'm sure you could find out how Muslims/non-Muslims are distinguished if that's of interest to you. ... I do know that if I had owned the flight school that unknowingly trained some of the terrorists responsible for 9/11, I would most definitely wish for take backs & do overs for the day they enrolled.
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And since we're painting with such a broad stroke as to lump Indian Hindus into the Muslim category, would you be okay with having "whites only" businesses around town?
Really? You didn't have a problem broad brushing it with the "Muslim-hating idiot Arkansans" thing.
... And I shouldn't dignify your final condescending not so subtle a-hole of a question with a response, but suffice it to say, no. Making that leap only makes you and your argument that much more baseless & less credible. ... Obviously, this business owner's SOP for handling what she deemed as a responsible business practice was not the most prudent, but there is nothing to indicate that she is a racist in the most common sense of the term. She did not just decide one morning that because she dislikes Muslims, or people of Middle Eastern descent, that she was going to exclude them. Perhaps if many of them had not been responsible for terrorist attacks on this country, twice, and trained to fly in this country the very apparatuses they used to murder thousands of Americans; and maybe if there were not constant threats of violence & terror, organized & not, from a large number of them, daily; and perhaps if thousands of our military men & women had not been killed & maimed in war & in peacekeeping/rebuilding operations by these people who want nothing more or less than to destroy us, simply because we exist and make that crystal clear on an hourly basis, perhaps she would not have felt compelled to take such a stand. ... I imagine it would be a rather shitty feeling to know that one had let terrorists practice their marksmanship on one's own property prior to them blowing away innocent people. Stranger things have happened ... such as hijacked passenger airliners being crashed into skyscrapers and the pentagon by Muslim terrorists trained to fly in the U.S. This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:35 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Wishnitwas1998
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I would've NEVER brought up Clint Sterner
THAT is NEVER to be spoken of.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:47 pm to Ole Geauxt
I think your coyote shite metaphor went over his head, OG.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:49 pm to Arkla Missy
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I would've NEVER brought up Clint Sterner
THAT is NEVER to be spoken of.
It wasn't Clint's fault that Billy Ratliff absolutely murdered your center and shoving him up Sterner's arse, causing the fumble.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 9:52 pm to Arkla Missy
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coyote shite metaphor went over his head, OG.
Naw, I think it was close to eye level.?.?
I ain't through reading your book, next time put in some pictures, they're easier for my tired, old, squinty eyes to see.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:02 pm to Arkla Missy
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I think your coyote shite metaphor went over his head, OG
No, I understood what he was saying. I'm not an idiot. I was just commenting on the discussion being reduced to such counterarguments.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:04 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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It wasn't Clint's fault that Billy Ratliff absolutely murdered your center and shoving him up Sterner's arse, causing the fumble.
Yes, yes, it was. There was absolutely no reason for him to lay the ball down on the field. He had two hands - should've caught himself with the one NOT holding the damn ball, or landed on his face; he was wearing a helmet w/facemask & a mouthpiece. It's not like he was going to lose teeth or break a nose. Or he could've tried to keep his footing for the whole remaining minute & a half. He chose that one to be clumsy.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:07 pm to Ole Geauxt
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I ain't through reading your book, next time put in some pictures, they're easier for my tired, old, squinty eyes to see.
Fine, your loss. ... And I posted pics already. You didn't enjoy them?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:09 pm to Arkla Missy
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And I posted pics already. You didn't enjoy them?
When was this?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:09 pm to CatFan81
What a dumb liberal count I am
Fixed it for you CatFan
Fixed it for you CatFan
Posted on 1/15/15 at 10:13 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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if you're not an idiot you would know
"I'm not an idiot"
You seem to be very versed in idiotology, get your masters?
"reduced to counter arguments"
Nope, not for me. I pretty much disagree with everything you've spewed, cept for the one lil coyote shite seed about it being her business.
if you're not an idiot you would know
"I'm not an idiot"
You seem to be very versed in idiotology, get your masters?
"reduced to counter arguments"
Nope, not for me. I pretty much disagree with everything you've spewed, cept for the one lil coyote shite seed about it being her business.
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