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Gender Choice for kids

Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:22 am
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:22 am
Today Show

My first thought was, if my five year old insisted on being a puppy or a pirate, I would play along for awhile. Is this really different?

Is it a good idea to call a girl a boy and reinforce this thinking in a child of this age?

They even suggested on the show this morning that they could consider preventing puberty. Really?

Incidentally, I didn't see any legitimate critical opinion presented.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6754 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:35 am to
My wife told me that Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt both have transvestite(?) children and encourage it. Whatever you call it these days.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27185 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:36 am to
This is fricked up. The world is fricked up.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:41 am to
This is a 4 year old. While you don't want to discourage a child, or somehow not portray that you care for the child, you have to be realistic with them as well.

There is a reason children have their parents make decisions for them until they are of an age to understand their choices.

Just because you want to be something, doesn't mean you just automatically get to be that. I want to be President of the United States. I can't, because I don't meet the age requirement.

But, there is a certain level of care and compassion you must show to children. Perhaps, taking gender roles out of the equation altogether.

Overall though, I think this scenario will only lead to larger problems when a classmate inevitably finds out and points it out to everyone.

Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28824 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Incidentally, I didn't see any legitimate critical opinion presented.



no. i think if you're born with a pink taco you're a girl and if you're born with a tallywacker you're a boy. no amount of surgery can fix that. The girl will never gain a Y chromosome and the boy will never lose his.

Now i think there is something to be said (secularly, removing my Christian opinion for a moment) for the idea of them having a choice of what they want to do with said tallywacker and taco as they grow up, but to deny the sex your born with leads to a slippery slope.

i'm a black muslim female. never mind my penis, melanin deficient skin. give me the free minority stuff.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:44 am to
This shows how messed up America is.

If a 23 year old female teacher has sex with a 17-18 year old high school senior boy, it is considered a crime. Ok. Fair enough. I get it. They say that he is not mature enough to decide if he wants to have sex with the 23 year old and all that. If he is 19 and not in her class, then it is ok. I understand. And, she should not be taking advantage of any of her students or boys that are younger. I completely agree.

But, the same society is letting 5 year olds decide their gender and is considering surgery for 10 year olds and is trying to figure out if we should postpone puberty for them. Is there not some kind of projection going on there by adults who are seeking to normalize this throughout the society by identifying young kids who claim to be gender-confused? Are they not victims of a larger agenda? Or, are they not at least being co-opted by it without any real understanding of what is going on?

They are just little kids. What do they know?

Why do we have one standard for something that has largely been considered normal throughout history and are criminalizing it (which I get) but for something that would have been considered abnormal and a sign of mental illness or confusion or just plain childishness, we are bending over backwards to accommodate it and normalize it?

If we are going to protect kids under 18 from their decisions by saying that they are not mature enough to make them, then why not apply that across the board? What are the chances of a boy thinking he is a girl when he is 7 and then changing his mind when he is 16 and realizing that he actually is a boy?

These are serious questions. I cannot figure out the standard that we are supposed to use when it comes to this.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37683 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:45 am to
Yeah, we should give them hormone therapy before puberty, let them have their dick cut off when they are in their early 20s, and then pretend nothing happened when they end up killing themselves a few years later (which happens, what, 50% of the time or so?)
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
16285 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:50 am to
There are plenty of deserving, confused girls those dicks could be donated to. I'm sure that can be done.

Imagine how much more game you'd gain in the lesbo trap if you could scissor with a penis?
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 11:25 am to
We're all going to Hell. how much more can we frick up our children with this bullshite.

Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 11:47 am to
The most outrageous part of this story is how "normal" they make it all sound. And the "experts" who support this nonsense.

Why not tell the kid she is free to dress like a boy and do boy things and let her know they will be supportive of not accepting societal gender norms, without calling her their "son" or "him".

I think we called these tomboys when I was a youngun.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:01 pm to
This subject has been discussed at length more than once on the OT. My conclusion from the last thread of discussion is that most people don't understand Gender Identification Disorder, GID.

There's a knee-jerk rejection to the idea that the brain can be differently oriented to the gender of the rest of the body. While the evolution of humans favored the stark division of gender roles, that is no longer reality.

While gender-confused individuals of the past either conformed to their physical gender roles or risked not contributing to the gene pool, the subsidence of evolution has ameliorated that harsh condition. The awareness that people can actually be born with a physical gender that is in stark contrast to his or her mental gender orientation is relatively new as a widespread social phenomenon.

Some people are freaking out about it but most are shrugging it off as just another human variation. I'm of the latter mindset.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:15 pm to
a fetus has two harmones while in the womb. we know these to be estrogen and testosterone. one takes over the other and the sex is determined for the fetus while in the womb. however, in some cases, one doesn't finish the job completely. that's when you have a confusion for these kids whenever they grow older. in some cases, females can even be born with a penis (hermaphrodites). this is a clear case of the estrogen not finishing the job.

while most will say that it's a choice to be gay, they are very much uninformed. I do believe, however, that some may choose whenever he/she may have had a bad experience in life.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:27 pm to
Just fricking idiots taking over this country, all there is to it
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

The awareness that people can actually be born with a physical gender that is in stark contrast to his or her mental gender orientation is relatively new as a widespread social phenomenon.


Lol.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:56 pm to
The people that say there's a difference between your sex and gender annoy me to no end. the people that let their little boy dress up and live like he is a girl are damaging him psychologically and I think it should be considered a form of child abuse
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:03 pm to
Is there any evidence that letting a male child dress up in women's clothes is psychologically damaging? I could see where forcing a kid would mess him up.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68469 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:07 pm to
There's nothing wrong with letting your kid dress up. But treating them like they're a girl when they are a boy and letting them go to school dressed as a girl is what I'm talking about. A child at that age doesn't have any idea what they mean when they say "mommy I'm really a girl. Not a boy"
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 1:09 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Is there any evidence that letting a male child dress up in women's clothes is psychologically damaging?


No. Pretending it means anything is where the psychological damage comes in.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:16 pm to
I consider myself pretty open minded, but I just can't get on board with trannies. They really just weird me out and act deliberately more girly than any sane woman would. In fact I'm sitting in a coffee shop right now and one just sat down on a couch across from me painting its god damn nails and keeps saying screw Christians loudly saying God should write another book if he really wanted it to believe. They are super obnoxious people.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:16 pm to
Gender is a social construct, unless its transgenderism....

I think its fricked up. I have heard parents talking about their kids being "gay" or trans before the kid hits puberty. I think a lot of these parents are embracing this because they get attention for it. Narcissism is rampant, and these frickwads got on TV to stoke theirs. They will probably write a book, and at a minimum, you know the mom blogs like a motherfricker.

Burn it all down.
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