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re: France to accept 30,000 Sryian refugees over the next two years...

Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:28 pm to
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Sunni and Shia Muslims are not the same. Worlds apart in fact. I believe IS is primarily Sunni while most of the wealthy Arab states are Shia. I big clusterf... in my opinion.


So they should instead try to assimilate in a western country with a Christian majority? Good luck with that. Although Shias and Sunnis may not be the same, they have more in common with each other than they do with Christians, Atheists, and other Western religions and ideologies. Accepting Syrian Muslims is a mistake.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Morocco and other Muslim countries should be taking in Syrian refugees. It's inexcusable that they are sitting idle watching their own people suffer. There is no need to create future social tensions like the ones that now exist in England and Germany. Islam is just not compatible with Western values, no matter how much SJWs want it to. Why are our world leaders so damn stupid not to realize this?
Posted by 1234567k
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 8:40 pm to
I knew Hollande was an idiot. And it took less than one week to prove it
Posted by Reservoir dawg
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Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:49 pm to
Oh well

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Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:12 am to
8 Syrians caught trying to cross from Mexico into Texas

I'm sure they just want to peacefully resettle here in the USA.
Posted by JacketFan77
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:14 am to
But don't let facts get in the way of a good xenophobia campaign ...

French terror suspects all have EU passports
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:17 am to
I'd try to do the same thing if I was in their position. I sure as hell wouldn't want to stay in the Middle East.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:18 am to
Yeah, the French knew about most of these guys before they did this.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:22 am to
And... so what? OK-they're scum traitors who all happen to be of Middle Eastern descent. Better? They got here at some point (or their parents did), just like the ones that are on the way, have failed to assimilate into Western culture and want to kill us. Here's the list of the poor, misguided, misunderstood, terrorists (European terrorists, that is):

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Bilal Hadfi, 20 - French (living in Belgium)

Ismaël Omar Mostefaï, 29 - French

Samy Amimour, 28 - French

Ibrahim Abdeslam, 31 - French (living in Belgium)

Salah Abdeslam, 26 - French (living in Belgium)

Hamza Attou, 21 - Belgian

Mohamed Amri, 27 - Belgian (born in Morocco)

*Eighth suspect (unidentified) carrying stolen passport in name of 'Ahmad al-Mohammad', 25 - from Idlib, Syria

The alleged mastermind is Abdelhamid Abaaoud, 27, from Belgium.

This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 8:22 am
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:31 am to
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Here's the list of the poor, misguided, misunderstood, terrorists

No one is saying to feel sorry for them, but lumping them in with the Syrian refugees is just bullshite.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:33 am to
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but lumping them in with the Syrian refugees is just bull shite.


Because ISIS is not in Syria, right?

And the West has a great program in place to screen and verify that these refugees, the product of a state of civil war in Syria, the government of whom has very little to no intelligence on the refugees and absolutely no motivation to provide any information about them to the West, and actually an incentive to let ISIS come to the West, are not terrorists?

This is what we are supposed to believe?
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 8:51 am
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:49 am to
Never said that, but it's moronic to use the Paris attacks as the basis for refusing Syrian refugees when they aren't related.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:51 am to
I edited. See above.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 8:57 am to
From what I've seen, people are more worried about terrorists from other countries trying to come over through Syria, not Syrians themselves. I believe that we are better able to identify the actual terrorists than the government says we can, especially with help from our allies in Europe.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:42 am to
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I believe that we are better able to identify the actual terrorists than the government says we can, especially with help from our allies in Europe.


This makes absolutely no sense at all.

You are saying that although our government has acknowledged that we don't have the ability to properly vet these refugees, that they actually do have the ability to do it, with a little help from Europe, which, apparently, is doing an astounding job rooting out the terrorists in its ranks???

I take what the US government says, and discount it by a factor of 1000. Then I take what foreign governments say, and discount that by a factor of 10,000.

The fact is this: the terrorists coming over from the Middle East are not the Jackal. They are grassroots, radicalized 15-45 year olds. We have very little to no human intelligence on them (not to mention that many of them hold fake passports), and there are tens of thousands of them. All it takes is one to cause a terrorism event or to get here and start sowing the seeds of hate and terrorism here. One. Can you, or anyone, guarantee to me, and the United States, that anyone can prevent this?

Are you willing to take a household full of Syrian refugees into your home and be responsible for what they do? Are you willing to house them with your friends and family? Will you pay to feed and clothe them?
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:48 am to
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Are you willing to take a household full of Syrian refugees into your home and be responsible for what they do? Are you willing to house them with your friends and family? Will you pay to feed and clothe them?

If I had a bigger house and more money, yes.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:51 am to
"Not in my backyard."

Typical.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:58 am to


I have a small, 2 bedroom townhouse. My sister is renting out the other room. We have two dogs. There's no room for anyone else inside. It's even hard for a friend to stay over. They could put up a tent in the backyard or at the end of the cul-de-sac if they want. If I had an extra room, I would be glad to let someone use it. I also work for the state. I can't support a family monetarily.

There is a YMCA next door. They might be able to stay there.

If someone would give them an RV, they could park it in front of my house.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 10:07 am
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:11 am to
Like I said: typical. You want to push it off on someone else. As long as they don't come live with you, that's fine.

If you aren't willing to take them into your home, then upon what pedestal can you stand and speak to others who do not wish them in their home, town, or country?

OK-your house is too small. House them in the YMCA next door to your house. Fill it to the brim. Will you pay to feed them and clothe them? Will you guarantee to all of your neighbors and those living in the vicinity that they will do nothing to harm the community? Will you place your good word and your life, and the lives of your family, friends and neighbors on this? Will you place their lives on the promise, made to you by them and the US Government, that no harm will come of them?

And the RV-just imagine how much fertilizer that sucker can hold.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:19 am to
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OK-your house is too small. House them in the YMCA next door to your house. Fill it to the brim. Will you pay to feed them and clothe them? Will you guarantee to all of your neighbors and those living in the vicinity that they will do nothing to harm the community? Will you place your good word and your life, and the lives of your family, friends and neighbors on this? Will you place their lives on the promise, made to you by them and the US Government, that no harm will come of them?

I just said I can't pay to feed and clothe them. Maybe if I was middle aged and not 5 years out of college. As for the rest, sure, I'll make that guarantee. As for the RV, take the wheels off and they could put as much fertilizer in there as they want. There's nothing important around me that they could hit.

Maybe they could start a fertilizer business and give me a discount.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 10:21 am
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:22 am to
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Maybe if I was middle aged and not 5 years out of college.


I never would have guessed that you are a millennial.
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