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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:46 am to DynastyDawg
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:46 am to DynastyDawg
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I see this everywhere. How do people come to such a conclusion? Sure the republican party sucks but Hilary sucks about as hard as anyone out there, republican or democrat.
Because the GOP is out of touch with society and anyone running against them will have a shot at beating them.
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:46 am to DynastyDawg
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They know why they lose elections but they're too stubborn to change and it's fricking infuriating.
Don't sweat it. It was Fox.
The only question to ask yourself right now is who can win and who has the personality to be an effective POTUS?
The best answer is Rubio.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:46 am to DynastyDawg
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I see this everywhere. How do people come to such a conclusion?
Current polling numbers. I don't think Hillary is the slam dunk she's portrayed to be, but I only see one or two from last night that have the stuff to beat her. Long way to go though.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:48 am to DynastyDawg
Trust me, I have 0 plans on voting for Hilary. But who else can the Democrats win with? I mean really. Bernie openly calls himself a socialist. Yea, good luck with that. Baby boomers are still alive.
And frankly, the Republican party still has an issue with wanting their personal beliefs to be inserted into politics. If one of them would just say, "no I don't believe in abortion. I'm pro life. But surveys show that over 80% of people support women making this choice, and as President, my job would be to speak for the people."
And frankly, the Republican party still has an issue with wanting their personal beliefs to be inserted into politics. If one of them would just say, "no I don't believe in abortion. I'm pro life. But surveys show that over 80% of people support women making this choice, and as President, my job would be to speak for the people."
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:53 am to The Spleen
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Most of the questions were pretty good.
That last one though. Has god told you anything? Or some shite like that. What in the actual frick does that have to do with someone being the President of a secular country.
The "debate" was nothing more than an attack on Trump, not that I have anything against that at all, and a way to prop Rubio up. The mouthpiece of the RNC made their agenda known last night.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:54 am to cas4t
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And frankly, the Republican party still has an issue with wanting their personal beliefs to be inserted into politics. If one of them would just say, "no I don't believe in abortion. I'm pro life. But surveys show that over 80% of people support women making this choice, and as President, my job would be to speak for the people."
Dude. I literally just typed out a long arse rant about how Republicans need to let go of religion and drop the holier than thou act, but said frick it and deleted all of it.
Nice summation though.
I couldn't agree more. Let people have their social issues. The federal government shouldn't be telling people what they can or can't do and they shouldn't be paying for the shite either.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:56 am to cas4t
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I think Kasich did pretty well too, but I just don't see him beating Hilary.
Kasich is the only one close enough to the middle to appeal to the Independents and those Democrats who are closer to the center and don't want Hillary.
ETA: Besides Paul, or course.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 9:57 am
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:58 am to CatFan81
I admittedly don't know a ton about Kasich but some of his fiscal policy makes me very leery.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:58 am to DynastyDawg
He's done good things in Ohio. He would carry it easily, I think. He's well liked there and Ohio is an important state in elections.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 8/7/15 at 9:59 am to CatFan81
Yeah, the first 2 questions and the last 2 questions of the night were clown questions. I thought the rest of them were pretty good, though I'm still amazed there were no economy questions. Poll after poll after poll shows the economy being the #1 issue for voters in almost every election, yet they ignored it? Was that by design because the economy is generally doing pretty well under Obama?
I thought if anyone they tried to prop up Bush. Interesting how differently people perceive these things.
I thought if anyone they tried to prop up Bush. Interesting how differently people perceive these things.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:01 am to The Spleen
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Poll after poll after poll shows the economy being the #1 issue for voters in almost every election, yet they ignored it?
But didn't you know? Gay marriage, immigration, and abortion are more important than the economy, duh.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:03 am to The Spleen
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Was that by design because the economy is generally doing pretty well under Obama?
L-O-fricking-L
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Poll after poll after poll shows the economy being the #1 issue for voters
Because they are in disapproval. Yet,
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the economy is generally doing pretty well under Obama
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:04 am to CatFan81
I loved that Trump called out the candidates for taking money and the fact that politicians are being controlled by donors.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:08 am to CatFan81
Paul isn't going to win the nomination, but I'm guessing RebelGator doesn't like him because he is truly small government. Paul is willing to be critical of certain parts of government that conservatives often feel the need to worship for some reason.
Police tactics are one example of this. From previous posts Rebel's philosophy of government tends towards a statist view where big government manifests itself in a police force that can do no wrong.
Police tactics are one example of this. From previous posts Rebel's philosophy of government tends towards a statist view where big government manifests itself in a police force that can do no wrong.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:09 am to cas4t
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really don't think the Republicans have a chance vs Hilary. Rubio is the only one I think has even a marginal chance. I think Kasich did pretty well too, but I just don't see him beating Hilary.
This is the perfect example of how the Republican Party has become a rudderless ship. Some of them want to run a guy named Marco Rubio because they think they can win Florida and get some Latino votes.
But a huge portion of the party won't want to vote for a guy named Marco Rubio because his name sounds Mexican. The party is completely splintered, with no leadership and no discernible direction for the future.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:12 am to DynastyDawg
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Let people have their social issues. The federal government shouldn't be telling people what they can or can't do and they shouldn't be paying for the shite either.
Republican's are typically known for their stance on less government. it's contradictory.
Either way, I think Rubio is probably the only one who has a chance vs whoever wins for the D's.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:16 am to Dawg in Beaumont
Do you use name brand tinfoil or off brand?
Can jet fuel melt steel beams?
Would you enjoy more terrorist attacks?
Do you own less than 400 guns?
How many copies of the constitution are within arms reach of you?
Do you understand any of the words in it?
Have you uttered the words "Not on my watch" with groups of other people?
Could you be listed on a domestic terrorist watch list?
Have you asked "where's the gold" in regards to Ft. Knox?
Do you read infowars.com?
Is the government building FEMA camps and going to kill us all with false flags while taking our guns to Sandy Hook?
These questions apply to all Paul supporters.
Can jet fuel melt steel beams?
Would you enjoy more terrorist attacks?
Do you own less than 400 guns?
How many copies of the constitution are within arms reach of you?
Do you understand any of the words in it?
Have you uttered the words "Not on my watch" with groups of other people?
Could you be listed on a domestic terrorist watch list?
Have you asked "where's the gold" in regards to Ft. Knox?
Do you read infowars.com?
Is the government building FEMA camps and going to kill us all with false flags while taking our guns to Sandy Hook?
These questions apply to all Paul supporters.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/7/15 at 10:38 am to Rebelgator
You seem to be very defensive about all of this. I have no illusions that Paul will be President or even the win the GOP nomination. Your views towards a more powerful government are more popular than Paul's, so why so touchy? You're well ahead in this.
I do think having a voice that represents libertarian leanings is good for the GOP to have in the arena.
If thinking police aren't all perfect hero's that should be bowed down to makes me an Alex Jonesesque nutcase to you then you might be the one that is a tinfoil wearer.
I do think having a voice that represents libertarian leanings is good for the GOP to have in the arena.
If thinking police aren't all perfect hero's that should be bowed down to makes me an Alex Jonesesque nutcase to you then you might be the one that is a tinfoil wearer.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 11:07 am to Rebelgator
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These questions apply to all Paul supporters.
If you really believe that, then you don't know shite about Libertarians. I'm a Libertarian as is my SO. We don't believe in any of the shite that you just listed. Neither do any of my Libertarian friends... and they're growing in number among young educated people. You're so full of shite.
Posted on 8/7/15 at 11:11 am to Rebelgator
In the meantime, you want to vote for an imbecile who, if elected... as if that would ever happen, would have us in a war with half of the world because he can't keep his stupid fricking trap shut. His company has filed for bankruptcy four (4) times and you want him to run a country? Trump is a fricking sideshow. The dude is a joke.
Not to mention that most of the people willing to vote for him are too stupid to realize that he doesn't even want to be President. He just wants to be in the spotlight because he's a self centered prick.
Not to mention that most of the people willing to vote for him are too stupid to realize that he doesn't even want to be President. He just wants to be in the spotlight because he's a self centered prick.
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