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Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:18 am to
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:18 am to
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Not the same as a telescope. The most powerful telescope could never see that distance due to the curvature of the earth.




It's called a telectroscope and it's an art installation. The point I was trying to make is that you could NOT see Europe from the US due to the curvature, and that installation only "works" because it shoots video images from point A to point B.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6855 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:03 am to
My bad. I missed the wit.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119396 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:02 pm to
I fell off once. Not going that close to the edge ever again.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25789 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:09 pm to
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The Bible doesn't address many areas of science, but it is accurate when it does. For example:


While I am not interested in debating the entire Bible with you the idea that "Moses" understood infectious disease because he said eat steak and crickets but not bacon and lobster seems a little far fetched. Like Nostradamus and Baba Vanga if you make enough vague statements at some point people could argue you were a genius.

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Is it disingenuous to say a circle and a sphere are round? Am I being dishonest when I say this?


Well, it is either disingenuous or ignorant. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you knew a little about the book you were quoting. The fact is the rare time sphere is used in that verse is in modern translations and was changed from circle to meet with current understanding. The Bible was not clear on it at all, it has been changed.

You were indeed being dishonest when you cited the authority of the Bible and say it called the earth a sphere when every English version until very recently has used the word circle. The words circle and sphere mean very different (opposite) things in a discussion of flat earth.
Posted by cw03
Member since Aug 2011
32 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Just looking at sun rays I can tell the sun is not 90 million miles away


quote:

Collegedropout



Checks out.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6855 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

...the idea that "Moses" understood infectious disease because he said each steak and crickets instead of bacon and lobster seems a little far fetched.


You didn't read any of the verses I cited, did you? The verse concerning infectious disease has to do with instructions on cleaning oneself after handling dead bodies or rotting meat.

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Well, it is either disingenuous or ignorant.


So I'm lying or stupid for saying a circle/sphere is round?
Don't be obtuse...oh, wait!


Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 2:29 pm to
The most interesting parts of the Bible, to me, are how it is said God molded us out of clay. And come to find out life on this planet most likely did form in clay to begin with.

Also the part about the number 666 being the number of man. Which is true. It's the atomic number of carbon. Which is what we are made of.

Very interesting.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25789 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:04 pm to
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Also the part about the number 666 being the number of man. Which is true. It's the atomic number of carbon. Which is what we are made of.


The atomic number of carbon is 6 not 666.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25789 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:15 pm to
quote:


You didn't read any of the verses I cited, did you? The verse concerning infectious disease has to do with instructions on cleaning oneself after handling dead bodies or rotting meat.


I read them all and the connections are ridiculously thin. The problem with the verse you cite here is it mentions nothing about disease processes and is in the context of slaughtering animals and handling of them.


quote:

So I'm lying or stupid for saying a circle/sphere is round?
Don't be obtuse...oh, wait!


Yes, you are one or both in the context you stated it. When talking about flat earth the words circle and sphere mean totally opposite things so conflating them is either disingenuous or stupid. You picked a very new and very rare translation to support your opinion. For the vast majority of the time the Bible has been translated into English the word circle was used, you picked the newer sphere version. If you had used the more traditional translation of circle it would have gone directly against your point.

If you aren't aware of the difference the words circle and sphere have in the context of a flat earth discussion you are ignorant, if you understand the difference but choose the rare translation in order to "cite authority" then you are disingenuous. You are simply one or the other here, I assumed one but you are working on proving the other.
Posted by BoulderReb
Broomfield, CO
Member since Nov 2013
492 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:19 pm to
So if the earth is flat, then are the sun, moon, and other planets also flat?

If we rotate around the sun, wouldn't we at some point get a sliver? Can't say I've witnessed a "sliver" sun.

I'm just posing this for the flat earthers.

I can't believe there's three pages of this.
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3059 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

The truth is it's more of a disk.


Well that explains how I can fly west from Arizona to Australia quicker than I could east from NY to Australia
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

...and no one has ever seen the curvature of the earth.


Umm...
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Also the part about the number 666 being the number of man. Which is true. It's the atomic number of carbon. Which is what we are made of.


I can no longer tell who is being a wiseass and who actually believes some of the nonsense they're saying.

But the atomic number of carbon is 6. Just plain old 6.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95982 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:35 pm to
Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.
Posted by teamjackson
Headspace, LLC
Member since Nov 2012
4616 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:37 pm to
I hope this thread is a huge troll.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6855 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

...I assumed one but you are working on proving the other.


Hah! Might as well remove all doubt for you then!

OK, Obtuse. No need to get so worked up!
What you call "ridiculously thin", I call amazing, considering the text was written thousands of years before science could verify the verses as fact! I believe that's what true science is: the legitimate uncovering of the way God has set the universe into motion, and the laws that govern how it works.

You can get diseases if you don't clean up after handling raw meat.

All that fuss over round objects!

Take it easy, Obtuse 1.

Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6855 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:39 pm to
Excellent pic!
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:13 pm to
Carbon - 12
6 protons
6 neutrons
6 electrons
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:21 pm to
Well that PROVES it! Well done.
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