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re: Ferguson protests in Knoxville?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:09 pm to TeamLSU
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:09 pm to TeamLSU
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You can shoot someone without using deadly force. Especially if the person is at a distance away from you and they are UNARMED. Now if the suspect is armed then all is fair. But Armed against Unarmed at a DISTANCE, to me is not justifiable. JMO
This statement is pure ignorance.
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:16 pm to five_fivesix
Wow, maybe the dumbest shite I have read on this site.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:16 pm to memphisplaya
memphis-if he would have been shot AT THAT MOMENT he was assaulting the officer then the shooting is justified. Once he walked/ran away from the police car and officer the THREAT is non-existent. Once he turns around and comes back towards the officer the threat is legitimate.
Once the suspect is away from you and at a distance, and you know he is unarmed, then the use of deadly force will be questioned. Whether right or wrong. Because you have other options, the use of deadly force is questioned. Officer Wilson protected himself when the confrontation happenned at his unit. Which he had every right to do.
The MOMENT Michael Brown walked/ran away Officer Wilson life was not in danger. Therefore use of deadly force is in question now by the Federal Govt. Therefore Officer Wilson is subject to Federal prosecution.
Once the suspect is away from you and at a distance, and you know he is unarmed, then the use of deadly force will be questioned. Whether right or wrong. Because you have other options, the use of deadly force is questioned. Officer Wilson protected himself when the confrontation happenned at his unit. Which he had every right to do.
The MOMENT Michael Brown walked/ran away Officer Wilson life was not in danger. Therefore use of deadly force is in question now by the Federal Govt. Therefore Officer Wilson is subject to Federal prosecution.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:22 pm to TeamLSU
Either way, this kid was a POS. I believe that black kids get treated poorly by the police, but shite man, couldn't they find a better martyr than this awful shitbag to riot in the name of?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:25 pm to TeamLSU
Here's the problem. The Officer did shoot the suspect, multiple times, and the suspect just would not do as directed. Sure, it would have been nice if he had been able to use a Tazer.....My guess is not enough money in budget to buy those for officers.
After being shot, 5 or 6 times, the suspect kept charging and received the fatal shot.
If officers do have to shoot, they are trained to shoot at mass of body, not try to shoot a suspect in the foot.
After being shot, 5 or 6 times, the suspect kept charging and received the fatal shot.
If officers do have to shoot, they are trained to shoot at mass of body, not try to shoot a suspect in the foot.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:37 pm to five_fivesix
five_fivesix-What in that statement is pure ignorance, at the end it's my opinion, what LAW states that you MUST shoot an unarmed person regardless of the situation. Now I understand what you are saying that you shoot to KILL. And if there are no other options then yes I agree. But if you have OTHER options then you open yourself up to a possible civil trial.
Now we have come to a society that any shooting can be justified by simply saying I feared for my life. Even though I have a weapon and the other person don't. All I'm saying is Officer Wilson had options. And that is a FACT. And to think Officer Wilson had NO other option is plain and simple pure IGNORANCE.
Now we have come to a society that any shooting can be justified by simply saying I feared for my life. Even though I have a weapon and the other person don't. All I'm saying is Officer Wilson had options. And that is a FACT. And to think Officer Wilson had NO other option is plain and simple pure IGNORANCE.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:39 pm to TeamLSU
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Once he turns around and comes back towards the officer the threat is legitimate.
So since Brown turned around and charged at him he was justified in the shooting?
Didn't Wilson and eyewitnesses testify that when he turned and charged he had one hand in his waistband? If so, he (Wilson) could have been unsure if he (Brown) had a weapon which would also justify the shooting.
This is tragic, but saying that it was racially motivated is just dumb.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:48 pm to Bogie00
Bogie-You are correct, Officers are also trained to cover, after being shot 5 or 6 times what threat can a person impose on you. Hell, it was obvious he didn't have a weapon to fire back at you, all you do is avoid until backup arrives.
And I definitely know you aim for center mass when firing your weapon. And right or wrong, the use of deadly force will always be questioned even internally until a decision is made. Now the decision has already been made criminally, the officer will not be charged criminally, now the civil aspect comes into play because of the use of deadly force.
Which he may or may not be charged with anything. But the use of deadly force here is the subject of the federal investigation. They are not questioning the confrontation at officer Wilson unit. If officer Wilson would have killed Michael Brown at that moment we would not be here discussing this situation because there would be nothing to discuss.
And I definitely know you aim for center mass when firing your weapon. And right or wrong, the use of deadly force will always be questioned even internally until a decision is made. Now the decision has already been made criminally, the officer will not be charged criminally, now the civil aspect comes into play because of the use of deadly force.
Which he may or may not be charged with anything. But the use of deadly force here is the subject of the federal investigation. They are not questioning the confrontation at officer Wilson unit. If officer Wilson would have killed Michael Brown at that moment we would not be here discussing this situation because there would be nothing to discuss.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:52 pm to tigerhawk
the only witness who says Brown was "charging" is Wilson. Others say he was moving (not running, only moving) forward/stumbling down. But literally no other witness besides Wilson, who absolutely benefits from saying it, says Brown was "charging". it's also undisputed that Brown ran away first before turning around.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:53 pm to WaveHog
why is this thread even on the rant rather than Political Talk?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:53 pm to tigerhawk
So Knoxville and Fayatteville are the only SEC towns that protested?
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:55 pm to WaveHog
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the only witness who says Brown was "charging" is Wilson. Others say he was moving (not running, only moving) forward/stumbling down. But literally no other witness besides Wilson, who absolutely benefits from saying it, says Brown was "charging". it's also undisputed that Brown ran away first before turning around.
That's bullshite, multiple witnesses disagree, and multiple autopsies disagree.
YOU'RE WRONG, YOU KNOW YOU'RE WRONG, NOW JUST STAND THERE IN YOUR WRONGNESS AND BE WRONG.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:56 pm to TeamLSU
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memphis-if he would have been shot AT THAT MOMENT he was assaulting the officer then the shooting is justified. Once he walked/ran away from the police car and officer the THREAT is non-existent. Once he turns around and comes back towards the officer the threat is legitimate.
You're believing a false story. Ftr if you tried to wrestle away my weapon unsuccessfully, and then think you're just going to walk away.... Think again.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:01 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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That's bullshite, multiple witnesses disagree, and multiple autopsies disagree.
nope.
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OU'RE WRONG, YOU KNOW YOU'RE WRONG, NOW JUST STAND THERE IN YOUR WRONGNESS AND BE WRONG
link me to the knowledge, buddy.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:01 pm to tigerhawk
tigerhawk-Personally I have stated previously it doesn't matter what color the officer is or was. When an officer use deadly force it is investigated, first by his department and IA, (Internal Affairs).
And I agree it is a tragedy, I don't think it was racially motivated, I think Officer Wilson did what he thought was right at the moment in time. My problem with others is just because the officer did what he thought was right, some seem to think a law enforcement officer is beyond reproach.
Some people will play the race card, that is the world we live in. But one thing is for sure, no matter what job we perform, we ALL are accountable for our actions on said job. From a dishwasher to the highest office in the land, (President of the United States) we are all held ACCOUNTABLE for our actions.
And I agree it is a tragedy, I don't think it was racially motivated, I think Officer Wilson did what he thought was right at the moment in time. My problem with others is just because the officer did what he thought was right, some seem to think a law enforcement officer is beyond reproach.
Some people will play the race card, that is the world we live in. But one thing is for sure, no matter what job we perform, we ALL are accountable for our actions on said job. From a dishwasher to the highest office in the land, (President of the United States) we are all held ACCOUNTABLE for our actions.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:02 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
I was up there a few years ago in Knoxville and they had an occupy force marching for what? They had no idea 
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:07 pm to TOKEN
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was up there a few years ago in Knoxville and they had an occupy force marching for what? They had no idea
I don't know who is the bigger joke, these protesters or OWS.
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:08 pm to TOKEN
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I was up there a few years ago in Knoxville and they had an occupy force marching for what? They had no idea
Oh this group knows what's it's marching for. One of the men from Highlander Center organized it - just the group in E. TN that trained Rosa Parks, MLK Jr. and served as a 'safe' space for civil rights leaders to meet all at once without getting killed.
It was kinda important in the whole civil rights deal...
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:10 pm to Prof
well at least their smarter than folks in Ferguson....they didnt completely riot and burn down the town they live in....jesus their retarded
Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:11 pm to Prof
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Oh this group knows what's it's marching for. One of the men from Highlander Center organized it - just the group in E. TN that trained Rosa Parks, MLK Jr. and served as a 'safe' space for civil rights leaders to meet all at once without getting killed.
It was kinda important in the whole civil rights deal...
MLK and Rosa Parks would tell these morons to sit down and shut the frick up.
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