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re: Election 2016

Posted on 2/8/16 at 6:19 am to
Posted by VolFanInCzechRep
Prague, Czech Republic
Member since Sep 2015
285 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 6:19 am to
Rand Paul
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 8:03 am to
As much as I hate to say it, Clinton. I like Sanders, but his ideas are just too out there, especially with a GOP controlled House. I also don't think he's electable in the general, though I feel the same way about every GOP candidate except maybe Kasich.


Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70898 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 9:04 am to
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Congrats. Yes, and they should know. Then at the same exact time, they ignore socialism's proven (time and time again) history of failure.

How about those millennials breaking for Benrnie? You ask them, and all they give is the "deer in the headlight" look. All they hear and know is...free stuff and let the rich paid for it. And I give you, the low information voter.

You cannot fix stupidity.


Did you give yourself a pat on the back after typing this out? It's pretty sanctimonious of you to assume all millennials/Bernie supporters are completely uninformed. I'm not a hard left lean either, before you attack.
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 12:17 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:06 am to
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Martin o'malley


Are you going to write him in? He dropped out a couple of weeks ago.
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
3526 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:09 am to
Sorry just a little sarcasm on my part.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:56 am to
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Looking like Johnson for me.


I understand why, but it will be a wasted vote until we move away from the two party system.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 10:59 am to
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Now that Rand is gone I'll probably vote for Bernie in the primaries because frick Hillary.


Does not compute. Libertarian to a socialist? Wanna know how I know you're a moron? Couldn't be more opposite. Rand Paul himself would tell you you're a moron.
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:08 am to
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As much as I hate to say it, Clinton.


As much as I hate to say it, people like you scare me.
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:31 am to
I guess I'm in the minority, being a Millennial who does not "Feel the Bern." Like every election there is no candidate that checks all the boxes so at this point I'm in the same situation as most of you... vote for the GOP that actually has a shot of winning. Trump polled high but it didn't pan out in Iowa. I'd still probably vote Trump anyway as I do agree with a lot of his views and think he has more of a shot than people give him credit for.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:37 am to
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Sorry just a little sarcasm on my part.


Missed it. My bad.

To be honest, I have a hard time understanding why he never caught on nationally.

He's got everything the two frontrunning Dem candidates are missing - Charisma, bonafide liberal credentials, a recent history as an elected chief executive. When the cycle started, I though he had a great shot at being the nominee and would be a really difficult target for the GOP candidate.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10354 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:37 am to
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Does not compute. Libertarian to a socialist? Wanna know how I know you're a moron? Couldn't be more opposite. Rand Paul himself would tell you you're a moron.


Rand's dad would disagree with you. LINK

Bernie Sanders' stances on corporate cronyism, the war on drugs, federal reserve transparency, and unnecessary foreign adventurism are not unlike Rand Paul's. However, his focus on certain aspects of "social justice" and his propensity toward higher taxes and additional government-provided services (healthcare, education, etc.) are certainly in opposition to Rand.

Point being, not everything is a dichotomy, dude. People treating politics like some kind of football game between Rs and Ds where one side is always right, every time, about everything, is why we are where we are right now. The real morons are those who assume libertarian-leaning Paul supporters should just blindly hop on board the Republican train without contemplating the relative merits of all the other candidates' ideological stances.

Likely Gary Johnson voter, by the way.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:38 am to
Bernie all the way, will not vote Hillary if she wins the nomination. Probably go third party if that happens.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70898 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 12:06 pm to
Here's a really interesting question.

What happens if either or both parties end up having brokered conventions?

The thought gets kicked around a lot, but it has the real potential to happen this cycle.

On the (R) side, there are a ton of candidates still in the race. It isn't at all difficult to see a scenario where none of them secure enough delegates to win outright. Further, not all the states are winner-take-all and pledged delegates aren't really bound to a candidate once the convention starts(but they virtually never go rogue).

On the (D) side, it gets even more interesting. Not only are their delegates not bound to vote for a candidate, their party rules don't even say that the party has to assign delegates based on the results of the primaries at all. If Sanders wins enough delegates to in theory get the nomination but the party doesn't want him for whatever reason, they're free to give it to HRC.

How much fun would it be to see a general election consisting of Clinton (D), Cruz (R), Trump (I), and Sanders (I) on the ballot?

That would probably see the whole thing headed to Congress - where the House selects the President and the Senate selects the Vice President and they need not have been partners on the ballot or even members of the same party.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:02 pm to
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As much as I hate to say it, people like you scare me.



Why's that?
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:33 pm to
Ben Carson will be getting my primary vote.
Posted by South Alabama Tide
Member since Feb 2015
3156 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 4:52 pm to
Because liberals are fricking nuts. They're everything that is wrong with the country and go against everything the constitution stands for. If the working class republicans (90 percent of working class) had the same mentality other libs have then we would all sit at home and draw welfare that came from no tax money because no one would provide a service to make the country's economy run. Essentially we would all become leeches that put the country in so much debt, by the time it was all gone, we would be taken over by another country and become barbarians. Which would make us the new Horn of Africa in North America. By that time I would be long gone and in Europe where people have sense.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 4:54 pm to



Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10354 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 4:58 pm to
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Because liberals are fricking nuts.

quote:

By that time I would be long gone and in Europe where people have sense.


Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46186 posts
Posted on 2/8/16 at 5:32 pm to
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Rand's dad would disagree with you

Nothing in that link said he disagreed. Did you actually watch the video with Paul talking? He said you won't find anybody in the election that's close to a libertarian (now that Rand is out). The part the said he favored Sanders was inaccurate and speculation. The interviewer said no way in hell would libertarians would move to Sanders and Paul said well he actually does have some libertarian views (which he does) but in no way would Paul side with Sanders. And Ron Paul isn't the end all be all when it comes to lbertarianism anyways. I actually like Rand better than his dad.

To switch from Paul to Sanders is moronic.
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