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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:18 pm to
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What happens between you and your Dr should stay that we have enough of the state in our private lives.


They're essentially reporting abuse just like they would if the child is outside of the womb and shows up in their office with unexplained injuries. This isn't reporting your cholesterol levels to your employer.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:27 pm to
Then what happens? Arrest her, put under observation?
What about smoking? What if she is to old when defects are more likely?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 3:30 pm to
Doctors are required by law to report child and elder abuse, this could easily just be viewed as an extension of child abuse.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98944 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:29 pm to
The same thing that happens when someone is reported for child abuse.

Abortion arguments aside, I don't see how it's hard to come to the conclusion that drug abuse while pregnant could be considered child abuse. Especially in states that may have already set laws based on when a fetus is considered "a person".
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 5:32 pm
Posted by Crimson G
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
1353 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 5:53 pm to
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Anybody that has more than 1 kid on welfare probably needs to be forcibly sterilized.


No, absolutely not.
Posted by BamaChick
Terminus
Member since Dec 2008
21393 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 6:47 pm to
I mean, I get the desire to shame women into not using drugs while pregnant, but where does this stop?

There are a lot of things women shouldn't eat or do while pregnant that could harm the fetus.

Alcohol
Tobacco
Shitty diet
Soft cheeses
Certain types of seafood
Use certain cleaning products
Dye their hair
Clean a litter box

Going to test for all of that, too?

If men are under the influence when they get a woman pregnant, that can be damaging as well. Are they going to test men before they ejaculate?

If this is just one private practice doing this, that's their right and if patients don't like the intrusion they can switch doctors. Speak with their feet. But if this becomes a mandate from insurance companies or the government, then I have a huge problem with it.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 7:28 pm to
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What's archaic is men telling adult women what to do with their bodies.


It's not just your body anymore once you're pregnant. Wish women
would reailize that.
This post was edited on 4/12/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Dawggy_Style
Member since Oct 2013
558 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 7:49 pm to
It's my understanding that my OB tests all expectant patients twice, once at the first visit, once at a random future visit. I thought it was state mandated for all pregnant women, but i could be mistaken. I never heard anything about either of my drug tests, but a friend of mine had a false positive (later proven by extensive retesting) and child services showed up at her door two days after her doctor's appt with a court order to test her and her two older children. It was a huge ordeal but eventually worked out.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 7:56 pm to
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I never heard anything about either of my drug tests, but a friend of mine had a false positive (later proven by extensive retesting) and child services showed up at her door two days after her doctor's appt with a court order to test her and her two older children. It was a huge ordeal but eventually worked out.
that sounds like a huge hassle, I would probably be pretty pissed off if that happened to a so.
Posted by Dawggy_Style
Member since Oct 2013
558 posts
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:21 pm to
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that sounds like a huge hassle


It really was ridiculous. She and her husband had to retain a lawyer and the entire process lasted several months.
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