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re: Do you believe in free will?

Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

One's environment is a web of other's "choices."

.... that are completely out of your control... not to mention theirs.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:24 pm to
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.... that are completely out of your control... not to mention theirs.

According to your postulate. Yes.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:30 pm to
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God knows what I'm going to do before I do it. He isn't forcing me to do it though.


this makes no sense.

He created you, knows what you're going to do, yet somehow didn't make it happen.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48713 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:33 pm to
Did God MAKE me reply to your post just now? Didn't seem like it but maybe he did.

Let's be honest. When it gets that convoluted, who cares anyway?
Posted by penit n slouch
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 7:41 pm to
I believe in supernatural manipulation of the amygdala as an unwarranted influence on free will.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 7:50 pm to
Calvinist for life, brotha.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:09 pm to
I believe in free will…the ability to make my own choices and actions as I see fit.

I also believe that God knows what I'm going to do, because God exists outside of time, and sees past, present and future simultaneously as a result of not being encumbered by time.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:30 pm to
^^^ what he said ^^^
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:35 pm to
If I believe in free will, would that be an act of free will?
Posted by MrTide33
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:39 pm to
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KyleOrtonsMustache


Thank you sir

God sees our future as if it's already happened. We are writing the story and God has already read the book.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:40 pm to
I do. There is always a choice. God has a plan for all of us, but we can choose not to follow it. We are not truly predestined, but there are many paths we can take that may lead us in the direction God planned for us, but ultimately, the choice lies with us.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 12:10 am to
I can't really have a real debate about this issue within the context of the supernatural. I'm glad you have found comfort in religion, though.
Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:24 am to
Yes. I have no choice but to believe in free will.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 7:25 am
Posted by tigerdup07
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 7:24 am to


This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:31 pm
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:42 am to
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then why in the hell would you get the shot to prevent the flu?


because getting the flu sucks. the same reason people don't walk around in the hood at night hoping to get shot and go to heaven.

plus God wants his message spread across the earth and you can't do that if you are trying to die.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 8:44 am
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48713 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 8:46 am to
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the other day, my coworker and I were getting flu shots. he is always preaching religion to me. I asked if he knows, without a shadow of a doubt, that heaven is a better place to be than earth and he said "ABSOLUTELY". so, I asked him why in the frick was he getting a flu shot then. certainly catching the flu is not suicide. right? and, if you know that heaven is better, then why in the hell would you get the shot to prevent the flu?

You're a dick.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:02 am to



This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:30 pm
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:32 am to
Read the bible. Nowhere in it will you find that life is fair. It also says of God that our thoughts are not His thoughts and our ways are not His ways.

Though some of us would like to understand God and even demand that we must before we consider placing any faith in him, it's never going to happen this side of Heaven.

It sucks for any child that is sick or in pain. It really does. It's just that God never promised or guaranteed a beautiful life here on earth. He promises an abundant (peace-filled) life if we place our trust in him and I've found him to be faithful in that regard.

ETA: If you believe what's in the bible, you believe and understand that no one is innocent. Not even the 2 year old with terminal leukemia.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 9:45 am
Posted by tigerdup07
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Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:47 am to
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This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 9:58 am
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48713 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 9:57 am to
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1- have you ever heard god's voice. they always answer yes. however, when I ask what it sound like, they can't explain if it was high or low pitch.

It's entirely possible that we may call our own conscience and good sense "God's voice." I've never heard God audibly speak as you're describing.
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2- what is god? is it a ghost, an old man (that once walked the earth), the wind, or an idea?

There's no way anyone can answer this without purely speculating and you know it. Clown question, bro. It's like asking what color the wind is.
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since the beginning of our lives, we've been drilled to believe in god. we've been told about the bushes that talk, the snakes that talk, and the boat that held the lions, tigers, bears, that, for whatever reason, didn't devour the rabbits during their journey on the flooded earth.

however, we stopped believing in a man dressed in red that could deliver gifts to everyone's home in one single night.

think outside the box for a minute and sincerely tell me what's the difference in the two stories that I presented to you?

You won't like this answer but it's because we KNOW for a fact that Santa isn't real. We don't know for a FACT that the history laid out in the bible is true or false. I do know that nothing historical from the Bible has ever been proven to be false.

ETA: too late to edit, bro. I answered your smarta$$ questions.
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 9:59 am
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