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Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:59 am to Stacked
Posted on 4/19/16 at 11:59 am to Stacked
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So we're mad at the subject of God because of how we still see some Christians use it to their benefit and because of what the subject of God can still be costing us in today's world.
True Christians don't like those people anymore than you do. Especially when they're a misrepresentation of their faith and are unrealistically used as the benchmark for all Christians.
Where there's a religion or cause there's always going to be someone who is going to attempt to exploit it for their own personal gain.
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:03 pm to Stacked
When it comes to a relationship with God, people try to apply the scientific method. That's not how relationships work.
I know my daughters love me. Not because of some formula or fossil record. Because I experience their love.
I know my daughters love me. Not because of some formula or fossil record. Because I experience their love.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:07 pm to Stacked
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So we're mad at the subject of God because of how we still see some Christians use it to their benefit and because of what the subject of God can still be costing us in today's world.
But what about most who don't use it for their own ulterior motives, and all its given us in today's world?
Choosing to be angry at one side of the coin is myopic.
Man is fallen. Everything we touch, we frick up. Whether we mean to or not. We can and will take the most pure concepts imaginable and pervert them beyond belief. None of us are perfect, no matter whether we ascribe to a religion or not.
But going on an e-crusade (yes, i see the irony
) against Christianity isn't going to solve anything or answer your questions in the manner you prefer. Hopefully it makes ya feel better, though
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Same applies here. I truly hope you can find peace in your life. Whether that's with Christ or not. I personally don't care. Just want folks to be happy in general, tbh.
TBird, your life philosophy kicks arse.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:59 pm to cardboardboxer
Nah, my life philosophy is selfish
I get laid more if my wife is happy. I get paid more when my bosses are happy. I enjoy life more when I'm getting along with folks. That usually only happens when people are in a good mood.
I know I'm a bastard-coated bastard with bastard filling Mainly just happy to have a woman who is willing to put up with my shite and a God merciful enough to forgive it.
I get laid more if my wife is happy. I get paid more when my bosses are happy. I enjoy life more when I'm getting along with folks. That usually only happens when people are in a good mood.
I know I'm a bastard-coated bastard with bastard filling
Mainly just happy to have a woman who is willing to put up with my shite and a God merciful enough to forgive it.Posted on 4/19/16 at 4:18 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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But what about most who don't use it for their own ulterior motives, and all its given us in today's world?
Choosing to be angry at one side of the coin is myopic.
Oh you're talking about Comfy Western world Christians, who are mainly just happy to have a wife, a home, local church and a favorite sin they let themselves do (that porn site you suggested on here a year ago that I've been fapping to ever since) to round out the "nobody's perfect" story when talking to others.
I see that type of life being much more myopic than being someone who takes issue with it. But to each his own.
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But going on an e-crusade (yes, i see the irony ) against Christianity isn't going to solve anything or answer your questions in the manner you prefer.
It actually has done wonders. I've been in the position you're in. Doubt of God never even entered my realm of thinking. I'm not leading a crusade, I'm just finally able to talk about it without feeling guilty so I am. And how do you know which manner I prefer my questions answered? What does that even mean?
.Posted on 4/19/16 at 4:53 pm to Stacked
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Oh you're talking about Comfy Western world Christians, who are mainly just happy to have a wife, a home, local church and a favorite sin they let themselves do (that porn site you suggested on here a year ago that I've been fapping to ever since) to round out the "nobody's perfect" story when talking to others.
Ooooh you got me. I watch porn!
it's not my "favorite sin" (wtf does that even mean? ). And yeah I'm happy with my wife and home (still looking for a local church here in SA, and never had one the past 5 years in Oklahoma or Missouri, btw). Those are blessings which I don't take for granted in the slightest. quote:
I see that type of life being much more myopic than being someone who takes issue with it. But to each his own.
Being real with myself and others is myopic? Not sure how you come to that conclusion.
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I've been in the position you're in. Doubt of God never even entered my realm of thinking.
You think I've never doubted God? Then you've never been in my position. I've even posted that I've questioned my faith before. Maybe you don't remember that, but don't assume that those with strong faith have never questioned it.
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, I'm just finally able to talk about it without feeling guilty so I am.
Bully for you! You shouldn't have felt guilty about questioning your faith, though. It's healthy to do so.
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how do you know which manner I prefer my questions answered? What does that even mean? .
I just mean you start all these "I'm angry at Christianity threads" and ask questions you've obviously already made up your mind about.
I mean, what are you hoping to gain from it other than random venting? That's ok, of course, I just don't see how it fosters any sort of discussion that will get anywhere.
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Ooooh you got me. I watch porn! it's not my "favorite sin" (wtf does that even mean? ).
It means the sin you're not willing to give up for anyone. Not for your wife, or for the God who created existence.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:26 pm to Stacked
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Oh you're talking about Comfy Western world Christians, who are mainly just happy to have a wife, a home, local church and a favorite sin they let themselves do (that porn site you suggested on here a year ago that I've been fapping to ever since) to round out the "nobody's perfect" story when talking to others.
You really truly are without a clue on this subject, having no idea how a real relationship with God really works.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:29 pm to Old Sarge
I bet I could give it a guess.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:38 pm to Stacked
You have gone off and done it now, I've taken a liking to you and your silliness.
I will start praying daily for you, you don't stand a chance
I will start praying daily for you, you don't stand a chance
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:09 pm to Stacked
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It means the sin you're not willing to give up for anyone. Not for your wife, or for the God who created existence.
How do you know whether or not that's porn for me? That's just one sin, bruh. I sin every cottonpicking day in one way or another. In God's eyes, there's no differentiation of sin. Overeating is a sin. Laziness is a sin. Wanton drunkenness is a sin. Sin of kind if a symptom of the human condition.
And my wife watches porn with me, so if I gave it up, it wouldn't be for her
The goal of Christianity ain't to live a sinless life, anyways, as you well know. It's not about trying follow a shite load of rules in order to be a good person. Good works/deeds can't get you into heaven. You just gotta do your damndest and trust that Christ's sacrifice covers for you where your sinful arse falls short.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:21 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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How do you know whether or not that's porn for me?
I never said I did, I was just giving you an example of what someone's favorite sin means. Is porn your favorite sin, Tbird? Seems I struck a chord with this example. Maybe it is.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:35 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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and a favorite sin they let themselves do to round out the "nobody's perfect" story when talking to others.
Well ask and you shall receive, I do believe TBird is bringing me the goods. On cue.
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And my wife watches porn with me, so if I gave it up, it wouldn't be for her
The goal of Christianity ain't to live a sinless life, anyways, as you well know. It's not about trying follow a shite load of rules in order to be a good person. Good works/deeds can't get you into heaven. You just gotta do your damndest and trust that Christ's sacrifice covers for you where your sinful arse falls short.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:51 pm to Stacked
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I never said I did, I was just giving you an example of what someone's favorite sin means.
Ah ok, I misunderstood you then
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Is porn your favorite sin, Tbird? Seems I struck a chord with this example. Maybe it is.
Struck a chord?
Think you're trying a little too hard there (no pun intended ). Just thought that was what you were implying, is all. My mistake. I don't have favorite sins or anything.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:53 pm to Stacked
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Well ask and you shall receive, I do believe TBird is bringing me the goods. On cue.
Just shooting straight with ya.
I mean, it's not like that's an earthshattering revelation or anything. I know you've heard it before
Posted on 4/19/16 at 7:26 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Just shooting straight with ya
Well I certainly don't think you've just been shitting us for the last few years.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 7:54 pm to TbirdSpur2010
But you do have a favorite sin.
And I know that you know what yours is. The reason we're all "not perfect", and "always falling short" or "just no good sinners" or any other silly thing people say to explain their self-faults and how it effects their personal relationship with a personal God, is because deep down, way deep down, you know you're not going to stop yourself.
It's you're favorite sin and there's nothing anybody, man or God, can do about it. It's food for fat people, little kids for the Fogle subway guy, control for dictators and porn for comfy western world Christians with wives, homes and a local church.
We call it "sin nature" but all it really is, is a list of priorities with everything fighting for 2nd, because No. 1 is non-negotiable.
It's a mulligan, an out. My "sin nature". And I bet you definitely do have something at the top of your list. And whatever that is, God doesn't come before it. Maybe today, but not for long.
And I know that you know what yours is. The reason we're all "not perfect", and "always falling short" or "just no good sinners" or any other silly thing people say to explain their self-faults and how it effects their personal relationship with a personal God, is because deep down, way deep down, you know you're not going to stop yourself.
It's you're favorite sin and there's nothing anybody, man or God, can do about it. It's food for fat people, little kids for the Fogle subway guy, control for dictators and porn for comfy western world Christians with wives, homes and a local church.
We call it "sin nature" but all it really is, is a list of priorities with everything fighting for 2nd, because No. 1 is non-negotiable.
It's a mulligan, an out. My "sin nature". And I bet you definitely do have something at the top of your list. And whatever that is, God doesn't come before it. Maybe today, but not for long.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:07 pm to Stacked
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And I know that you know what yours is. The reason we're all "not perfect", and "always falling short" or "just no good sinners" or any other silly thing people say to explain their self-faults and how it effects their personal relationship with a personal God, is because deep down, way deep down, you know you're not going to stop yourself.
You've still got it 100% wrong
As you grow closer to God in your relationship you desire with all your heart to weed out the sins or vices that you know you place before God, they or it is the first that you target and what you desire and work the hardest to defeat.
How could you have studied theology while "being a Christian" and never been taught or covered the most basic Christian experiences?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:28 pm to Old Sarge
Old Sarge, I'm sorry dude I can't talk with you about this. There's some basic logics you and I don't see eye to eye with and it simply makes talking with you very annoying. I'm just being honest, I'm sorry. To answer your question, and these are the gaps in logic I'm talking about. You asked...
I would expect for you to piece together and understand that it's not that I haven't been taught correctly, it's that I no longer believe it and therefore no longer argue from it's standpoints.
I can't keep explaining the simplest of things like that. On top of that, you accuse me of being a troll in the middle of what I feel is deep conversation. It's clear you and I are on different pages. We can't keep talking. Not for good, just in this thread. I still like you outside of this thread.
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How could you have studied theology while "being a Christian" and never been taught or covered the most basic Christian experiences?
I would expect for you to piece together and understand that it's not that I haven't been taught correctly, it's that I no longer believe it and therefore no longer argue from it's standpoints.
I can't keep explaining the simplest of things like that. On top of that, you accuse me of being a troll in the middle of what I feel is deep conversation. It's clear you and I are on different pages. We can't keep talking. Not for good, just in this thread. I still like you outside of this thread.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 8:29 pm
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