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re: Christian Radio Share-a-thons and Give-a-thons
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:37 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:37 pm to TbirdSpur2010
The truth isn't afraid to be questioned, so you have nothing to worry about.
But just so you're aware ahead of time, I'm going to go one by one through the things that bothered me most about when I was a Christian. and i'll do that all because, the truth isn't afraid to be questioned.
And if something places eternity on the line, it should be questioned harder than what you may or may not be comfortable with. Despite what you may believe I listen to a lot of what's being said. Some of those problems I had when I was a Christian have been defended far better than I would have been able to. I've learned a lot. But someone's gotta get the fire burning if we're gonna forge metal.
But just so you're aware ahead of time, I'm going to go one by one through the things that bothered me most about when I was a Christian. and i'll do that all because, the truth isn't afraid to be questioned.
And if something places eternity on the line, it should be questioned harder than what you may or may not be comfortable with. Despite what you may believe I listen to a lot of what's being said. Some of those problems I had when I was a Christian have been defended far better than I would have been able to. I've learned a lot. But someone's gotta get the fire burning if we're gonna forge metal.
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:44 pm to Stacked
even the demons acknowledge Jesus as the Son of God and His authority, but they were not Christians either
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:45 pm to Stacked
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just so you're aware ahead of time, I'm going to go one by one through the things that bothered me most about when I was a Christian. and i'll do that all because, the truth isn't afraid to be questioned.
No, you just want to troll
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:56 pm to Old Sarge
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No, ours are all ad free
Our main one does but it's all station sponsors like Campbellsville University. They host a ton of free Christian concerts locally as well though. As far as pledge drives, UoL's classic radio station just had one with no religious affiliation. Most indie and off beat stations do.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:53 am to Old Sarge
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No, you just want to troll
This can't be your response to everything I have a question about. or can it?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:59 am to cardboardboxer
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Jesus is actually a messiah in the Islamic faith.
Don't start letting them know the two religions go hand in hand, they think they've polished their turd enough the last hundred years that they should get a pass and not be compared with the likes of Islamist anymore.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 7:02 am to Stacked
You're so filled with hate
Posted on 4/19/16 at 7:04 am to Old Sarge
shite, what happened to just trolling? Now I'm filled with hate too?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 7:17 am to Stacked
Posted on 4/19/16 at 7:35 am to Stacked
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I'm going to go one by one through the things that bothered me most about when I was a Christian. and i'll do that all because, the truth isn't afraid to be questioned.
Your faulty reasoning aside, this is just a silly thing to get your undergarments in a wad about, Christian or not
Are share-a-thons/pledge drive mildly annoying? Yeah, but that's hardly exclusive to Christian stations, nor should Christian stations be chided for doing so.
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someone's gotta get the fire burning if we're gonna forge metal.
This doesn't really mean anything. Kind of sour grapes from you, to be perfectly honest.
You're a grown arse man. If you've made the decision that not believing in God/Christ/religion/whatever is best for you, then that's cool. We all have to make our own decisions to find peace/fulfillment with the world around us. For some, that's religion, for others, it's the absence of the same. At the end of the day, we're all chasing the same goals during our time on this earth--joy, peace, purpose, etc.
I don't understand the need to go down a laundry list of things that you dislike about Christianity. Comes off as axe-grinding, like I said. Are you hoping to change peoples' minds one way or another? Because that's a waste of time on the internet. Or are you just venting? In which case.....ok, I guess?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 8:12 am to TbirdSpur2010
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This doesn't really mean anything. Kind of sour grapes from you, to be perfectly honest.
I make no claim otherwise about this. I'm very mad at christianity. It cost me an enormous amount in my life. I have no problem admitting it, in fact I think more people should be open about it, which is why I openly talk about it now. I'm furious at the time I wasted in my life on religion. I invested everything I had to god and it was a sham. A fricking parlor trick. But you act like I've picked a shitty place to vent these frustrations. I've picked the off topic section on an anonymous message board. One of millions like it online. What more are you asking from me? I'm not looking for air time on the evening news. I'm writing this to you schmoes so I can hear answers for the questions I should've been asking.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:12 am to Stacked
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The truth isn't afraid to be questioned, so you have nothing to worry about.
But just so you're aware ahead of time, I'm going to go one by one through the things that bothered me most about when I was a Christian. and i'll do that all because, the truth isn't afraid to be questioned.
And if something places eternity on the line, it should be questioned harder than what you may or may not be comfortable with. Despite what you may believe I listen to a lot of what's being said. Some of those problems I had when I was a Christian have been defended far better than I would have been able to. I've learned a lot. But someone's gotta get the fire burning if we're gonna forge metal.
I don't disagree with the premise, but I would say you often lack tact in these threads, and are using somewhat anecdotal tropes. I am all for calling the Bible a book of fairy tales, but radio stations asking for money? That's the thing that blows holes in Churches? I don't think that should really be a sticking point, but that's just me. Corruption is one thing, but this is just like... Iunno. A radio thing. It just seems like an odd thing to get hung up on. Christian music has always seemed cheesy and cookie cutter to me. I've never enjoyed it, so I probably haven't heard it on the radio since like... one or two times on accident. So I may not be the best critic of your OP, but I guarantee there are more valid criticisms of modern Christianity out there.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:13 am to Stacked
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It cost me an enormous amount in my life
Care to elaborate?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:17 am to Stacked
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I'm very mad at christianity. It cost me an enormous amount in my life.
That's unfortunate. But as much as you deem it took from you, others can claim its given them.
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I'm furious at the time I wasted in my life on religion. I invested everything I had to god and it was a sham. A fricking parlor trick.
To you. That's the conclusion you've reached. Which is fine, btw.
Others have reached the exact opposite conclusion, which is also fine. Neither extreme is a statement of absolute, just our own relative personal experiences with the same.
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you act like I've picked a shitty place to vent these frustrations. I've picked the off topic section on an anonymous message board. One of millions like it online. What more are you asking from me? I
I'm not asking anything of you, nor am I saying this is a shitty place to vent. Just observing what you've admitted to be a rather irascible state of mind towards the subject matter at hand.
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I'm writing this to you schmoes so I can hear answers for the questions I should've been asking.
Why? You've already made up your mind. Not like anything typed here is going to change that one way or the other.
I'm sorry Christianity isn't for you. But you still have to let it go sometime.
I liken it to my experience in the military. My wife and I were miserable most of the time we were in. Don't regret separating at all. At the same time, though, what was a wise decision for us in getting out is not a panacea. Others have had and are having great/fulfilling careers in the service. What good would it do her and I to lash out at them because for us the military was a sham/waste of time? Our friends' affiliation (relationship) with the military isn't ours, and never will be. Who are we to shite on them for staying in when that's the best situation for them and was a good decision for their lives?
Same applies here. I truly hope you can find peace in your life. Whether that's with Christ or not. I personally don't care. Just want folks to be happy in general, tbh.
But I don't care how justified you think you are, you come off as you do, you are going to get pushback. And rightfully so.
Just tryna be real with you, man
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:24 am to Stacked
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I make no claim otherwise about this. I'm very mad at christianity. It cost me an enormous amount in my life. I have no problem admitting it, in fact I think more people should be open about it, which is why I openly talk about it now. I'm furious at the time I wasted in my life on religion. I invested everything I had to god and it was a sham. A fricking parlor trick. But you act like I've picked a shitty place to vent these frustrations. I've picked the off topic section on an anonymous message board. One of millions like it online. What more are you asking from me? I'm not looking for air time on the evening news. I'm writing this to you schmoes so I can hear answers for the questions I should've been asking.
And I can't fault you for that. Your feelings are your own, and you have every right to feel the way you do, but hopefully they become more measured with time. When I read, "I invested everything I had to God and it was a sham. A fricking parlor trick." I feel bad for you. Not because I don't think you should feel that way, that's your own mentality and you're definitely entitled to it, but just that I hope you come to a more balanced conclusion in life. I believe the Bible is a book of fairy tales, but I don't think it's a parlor trick. That implies some Wizard of Oz type shenanigans. And sure. The Baptist megachurches are a mockery of ALL religion and these people swindle good people, but that doesn't speak to everything about Christianity. There are some very good people that have done very good things, and the guidance "Christ" brought them was very important in that process. I think that the lessons in the Bible have done SOME good in this world, and people latching on to what they believe is right isn't a bad thing. It's not a GREAT thing, however, and some of the attitudes of intolerance in the Bible really highlight how imperfect Christianity really is, but it's not the worst thing in the world.
I feel bad that you feel lost. I feel bad that Christianity didn't give you the fulfillment you thought it would. It never did for me either. But you can come to a different conclusion about it. Sure. It was a timewaste. All those Sundays mornings. All those sanctimonious prayers. You name it. Could we have used our time better? Of course. But sometimes people get stuck in dead end jobs. Sometimes we have burdens others don't. We can get bitter at the world, or we can move on. Don't let your anger drive you. Only Siths deal in absolutes, after all.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 9:34 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I'm sorry Christianity isn't for you. But you still have to let it go sometime.
I liken it to my experience in the military. My wife and I were miserable most of the time we were in. Don't regret separating at all. At the same time, though, what was a wise decision for us in getting out is not a panacea. Others have had and are having great/fulfilling careers in the service. What good would it do her and I to lash out at them because for us the military was a sham/waste of time? Our friends' affiliation (relationship) with the military isn't ours, and never will be. Who are we to shite on them for staying in when that's the best situation for them and was a good decision for their lives?
Same applies here. I truly hope you can find peace in your life. Whether that's with Christ or not. I personally don't care. Just want folks to be happy in general, tbh.
Tbird knows what's up!
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:22 am to Stacked
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I make no claim otherwise about this. I'm very mad at christianity
But you have claimed otherwise in the past, so is the anger a new thing?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:23 am to TbirdSpur2010
when folks are angry at a God they tell everyone doesn't existPosted on 4/19/16 at 11:48 am to Old Sarge
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when folks are angry at a God they tell everyone doesn't exist
I can explain this to you if you'd like. We're all guessing about God. You me and everyone in between. For those who do not believe a relationship-having-God exists, His hands-off approach that never ends is what non-believers classify as "behavior indicative of not existing". What we're angry at is people who benefit off their faith at others expense and then view their I'll gotten gains as proof God is real and also must be favoring them, and the smug smirk of those who say they "know" God's real and can prove it but never can.
So we're mad at the subject of God because of how we still see some Christians use it to their benefit and because of what the subject of God can still be costing us in today's world.
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