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re: Charles Barkley on 'whipping' kids
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:29 am to The Spleen
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:29 am to The Spleen
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If you say so, internet guy that's never met them or me.
Bet my imaginary kids can whip your kid's arse
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Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:34 am to Phat Phil
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I agree with Charles and this is pussyfication of America imo
Absolutely Agree. When I was a kid...
1. Beat up my brother on the school bus - got an arse beating over that.
2. Brother and i spraypainted our names on the street in front of our house (seemed like the thing to do at the time...) got our asses beat.
3. got in a hockey fight with punk arse neighborhood kid and he got stitches. I got a beating.
4. Broke some china at my grandmothers house - got a beating...
All normal stuff. we got grounded and "sent to our room" etc, for lesser offenses, but if you fricked up at our house, expect to get spanked.
shite was real in the 60's and 70's. Same with all my friends and neighbors. Everybody grew up normal. Now its all these sandy vagina assholes growing up kids who dont see right and wrong. they see gray lines and negotiated results. frick that.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:42 am to The Spleen
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I always thought I'd spank my kids, but then I had kids and realized how dumb, lazy and barbaric it is.
I think you're probably A great guy and I like you despite our political differences.
I'm going to make a blanket statement:
I've met some spoiled kids in my life. Especially now that I have kids in school.
Some of them are kids that are spanked but not often. All of the kids I meet that are never spanked are brats.
My kids are spanked, and sometimes act like brats. But they also know that there is consequences to it and that wins out more often than not. But my kids respect adults and others and I don't see that in a lot of the non CP kids.
Maybe you're one of the exceptions. Based on what I know of you, I'd think it's probably true that you are. But it's an exception to the rule, not the norm.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 10:45 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:46 am to Numberwang
quote:Now there's an interesting development
Actually, in France, they discipline their children. They also have almost no "ADHD".
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:54 am to genro
Should be up to parents
If it's taken too far, they should have to answer for that with authorities.
Not ever whipping a child that needs it with certain circumstances is just not smart.
It's how I was raised and how my children were raised and nobody else's damn business. My kids respect authority and are very well adjusted human beings. We see the alternatives running around today with a lot of these kids.
If it's taken too far, they should have to answer for that with authorities.
Not ever whipping a child that needs it with certain circumstances is just not smart.
It's how I was raised and how my children were raised and nobody else's damn business. My kids respect authority and are very well adjusted human beings. We see the alternatives running around today with a lot of these kids.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 10:55 am to 3nOut
And I've met several kids, and knew several kids growing up, that got spanked and were still brats. I don't think spanking has any real impact on that. Some good parents spank, some don't. Some bad parents spank, some don't. I don't necessarily think spanking makes you a bad parent. It's a lazy form of punishment, IMO, but I can admit there are times in parenting I've taken the lazy approach.
I can say that growing up I was never really scared of being spanked. My mom doled out most of them because dad worked long hours, so maybe that had something to do with it. I just can't recall a single time I didn't do something I shouldn't have because of the fear of getting spanked.
I can say that growing up I was never really scared of being spanked. My mom doled out most of them because dad worked long hours, so maybe that had something to do with it. I just can't recall a single time I didn't do something I shouldn't have because of the fear of getting spanked.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:21 am to The Spleen
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Because it really didn't have any negative impact on me.
So your parents abusing you had no negative impact on you? It sounds almost like it wasn't really abuse.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:24 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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That is my primary problem with it...in my experience it is generally an immediate response done out of anger.
You've had bad experiences. My mom cried every time she spanked me because she hated doing it but thought I needed it. Dad. Dad didn't cry.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:26 am to the808bass
I mean my experiences in what I have witnessed. I was never spanked by my parents.
I was paddled a couple of times in school though.
I was paddled a couple of times in school though.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:47 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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I mean my experiences in what I have witnessed
You've seen a lot of other parents beat their kids?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:49 am to the808bass
Yes, happens a lot in public in the south.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:57 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
AP's been reinstated. LINK
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:59 am to genro
I am glad they are taking the real victims (fantasy owners like me) into consideration.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 11:59 am to the808bass
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So your parents abusing you had no negative impact on you? It sounds almost like it wasn't really abuse.
Maybe it did and I just got over it. I don't know. Like I said, I supported spanking and planned on spanking my kids, then I had my first kid when I was 29 and my perspective changed.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:12 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:13 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:17 pm to The Spleen
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Maybe it did and I just got over it. I don't know. Like I said, I supported spanking and planned on spanking my kids, then I had my first kid when I was 29 and my perspective changed.
just curious... i know you used to consider yourself a conservative and have recently migrated on some issues. where did that happen in terms of having kids?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:20 pm to 3nOut
I laugh at all these people that think they are going to "reason" with a 2-3 year old child. They have no capacity to reason. They only respond to simple stimuli - like getting their bottoms paddled.
This is just another manifestation of a generation of Americans that put the child at the head of the household.
This is just another manifestation of a generation of Americans that put the child at the head of the household.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:23 pm to The Spleen
He's a troll ignore him. I never respond to any of his posts. Stupid is as stupid does.
With regards to whipping, there is nothing wrong with disciplining a child who needs it. I got whippings when I was young and deserved them. It made me a better person.
I suspect America is the way it is now because people don't correct poor behavior in their children and they grow up with what I call "an unchecked will". My wife sees this every day in public schools. Kids run their parents today instead of the other way around.
Now, with regards to AP, on a 4 year old he went a bit too far it seems. While I'm fine with whipping for disciplinary purposes, the extent of his child's injuries suggest that he went too far and didn't show proper restraint with when to stop.
My guess is he got whipping like that when he was young and it's what he was used to.
With regards to whipping, there is nothing wrong with disciplining a child who needs it. I got whippings when I was young and deserved them. It made me a better person.
I suspect America is the way it is now because people don't correct poor behavior in their children and they grow up with what I call "an unchecked will". My wife sees this every day in public schools. Kids run their parents today instead of the other way around.
Now, with regards to AP, on a 4 year old he went a bit too far it seems. While I'm fine with whipping for disciplinary purposes, the extent of his child's injuries suggest that he went too far and didn't show proper restraint with when to stop.
My guess is he got whipping like that when he was young and it's what he was used to.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 12:32 pm to kywildcatfanone
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what I call "an unchecked will".
Was coming here to post this. Children need their wills broken. Not their spirit, but their will.
Also, I believe an undisciplined child is just as abused as one whose parent goes too far.
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