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Canada Legalizes Physician-Assisted Dying
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:30 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:30 am
People who have a problem with this can die a painful death by cancer. I'm only stating a fact.
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The Canadian government introduced the bill in April and it passed a final Senate vote Friday. It includes strict criteria that patients must meet to obtain a doctor's help in dying. As we have reported, a patient must:
"Be eligible for government-funded health care (a requirement limiting assisted suicides to Canadians and permanent residents, to prevent suicide tourism)."
"Be a mentally competent adult 18 or older."
"Have a serious and incurable disease, illness or disability."
"Be in an 'advanced state of irreversible decline,' with enduring and intolerable suffering."
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This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 12:59 am
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:55 am to Stacked
Man, you start a lot of depressing threads.
Physician assisted suicide, no God, we shouldn't try to talk people out of killing themselves.
You ever just start a thread for smiles?
Physician assisted suicide, no God, we shouldn't try to talk people out of killing themselves.
You ever just start a thread for smiles?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:00 am to Mattwells90
Should I feel sorry you're depressed by things I'm not?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:01 am to Stacked
They should allow people to die this way... it is no way to live in pain or unable to take care of yourself. If you choose to die, you should be able to choose the way you want to go.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:03 am to Stacked
I guess you can feel any way you'd like.
One would say that the typical topics you start threads regarding wouldn't exactly make for cheery conversation at parties though.
One would say that the typical topics you start threads regarding wouldn't exactly make for cheery conversation at parties though.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:07 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:20 am to Mattwells90
Hey man, I'm not breaking your balls I'm just saying death doesn't depress those who don't give it the value to. If people believed half of what they claim, this topic wouldn't be the taboo topic it is. You can tell who worries about death and who doesn't, namely those who thinks "death" is a "bad, scary" thing. Often those who perceive negative connotations with death are those who you'd least expect in the grand scheme of ideology.
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:20 am to Stacked
I completely agree with this. As a nurse, I have seen far too many people suffer horrible and excruciating deaths needlessly. I'm thinking that the only states that currently allow it in the US are Oregon, Washington, California and I believe Vermont is the fourth but I may be mistaken. It should be a person's choice as long as they are competent mentally to make decisions of such great magnitude. I believe this would be best determined by more than one psychiatrist specifically trained in dealing with end of life situational determination. Also there should be a consensus of two-four physicians who specialize in the patient's specific scope of diagnoses agreeing that the patient's disease/condition is irreversible and is as close to being definitively terminal as is humanly possible to determine. I would also be a proponent of counseling that would consist of least 3 seperate sessions with a counselor and a psychiatrist before proceeding. Of course there would be more areas that would need to be explored as well but I don't want to blast tOTB with a massive wall of text any more than I already have.
TL;DR Basically good for Canada..it was the right thing to do.
ETA: I also despise calling "Physician assisted suicide". The word "suicide" conjures up images of things/decisions of negative connotation and this should NOT be grouped in that same category.
TL;DR Basically good for Canada..it was the right thing to do.
ETA: I also despise calling "Physician assisted suicide". The word "suicide" conjures up images of things/decisions of negative connotation and this should NOT be grouped in that same category.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:26 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:23 am to Carolina_Girl
If they would only allow those who overdose to be on the do not resuscitate list
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:25 am to Stacked
I guess we will just agree to disagree. To me, someone going through something so terrible that they would rather die as opposed to living to see the next day is about as depressing as it gets.
And death sucks. No way around it. It sucks. But we have talked about God and religion before so I understand that we view life and existence very differently.
And death sucks. No way around it. It sucks. But we have talked about God and religion before so I understand that we view life and existence very differently.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:30 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:26 am to tduecen
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If they would only allow those who overdose to be on the do not resuscitate list
I'd have a pretty big problem with this.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:29 am to Mattwells90
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And death sucks. No way around it. It sucks.
Pain and seperation from loved ones suck. We have no idea if death sucks. We, as in, anyone who is alive.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:31 am to Stacked
Not me, the majority are doing it because they have some superficial belief that them killing themselves is best. Then let them, there is a very small portion that is true accidental overdoses.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:31 am to tduecen
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If they would only allow those who overdose to be on the do not resuscitate list
No. I can't agree with that. Who's to say the OD was intentional to begin with? And having a person who is mentally capable of making a decision of such magnitude as this is imperative along with a reasonable certainty that the person knows and is absolutely aware of what this choice entails. It absolutely should not be a knee-jerk type of reaction to finding out you have a terminal condition and in an overwhelmingly large amount of cases, overdosing is not a well thought out action at all.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:35 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:32 am to Stacked
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Pain and seperation from loved ones suck. We have no idea if death sucks. We, as in, anyone who is alive.
Like I said in my last post, we view life, death, and existence from two vastly different perspectives so it's not surprising that this is an issue we have opposing views on. Have a good one though. Hope you have a good father's day with your family.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:33 am to tduecen
I wouldn't mind the vast majority taking a hike, I just wouldn't want some teen-age girl with a breakup letter and stomach full of pills to be on the do not resuscitate list.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:34 am to Carolina_Girl
quote:and if they wish to do so, let them die. They do not value life anyway.
overdosing is not a well thought out action at all.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:37 am to Stacked
quote:Wouldn't bother me in reality, I know a lot of people get upset when they see a random person, celebrity, etc die. Not me, death is what is it is. You can't stop and people are living past what they should now.
I just wouldn't want some teen-age girl with a breakup letter and stomach full of pills to be on the do not resuscitate list.
When you have people in their 90's who are blind, death, with dementia still living then what is the point. Their life is technically over as it is, the only reason they are alive is for someone to take care of them. There are several cases that are probably similar and the people would be better off with some kind of physician-assisted suicide.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:37 am to tduecen
I do agree you should be allowed to kill yourself, for any reason, with no questions asked, but I think there should be a minimum age. I'd like to set it at 30. Give yourself some time to get some living under your skin and know what you're giving up. A 20 yr old simply has no idea what they'd be giving up because their world is too small.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:38 am to Stacked
If they can sign up to die in war at 18 then it should be 18, same as the legal drinking age. We've placed the age of 18 as an adult, if you are an adult you can make adult decisions.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:39 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:41 am to tduecen
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and if they wish to do so, let them die. They do not value life anyway.
So not true. You don't work in the medical field, do you? Because your statements are based on a narrow scope based on emotion and not a wider scope based on years of professional exposure to situations such as the one you presume to diagnose as not understanding the value of a person's life.
And who are you to determine the "value" of someone else's life, anyway? How would one presume to deem themselves able to do that?
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 1:42 am
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