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re: Can atheists believe in ghosts? (nsfw)
Posted on 4/9/15 at 4:27 pm to KajunGator
Posted on 4/9/15 at 4:27 pm to KajunGator
well in that case, now I'm just having a hard time :rimshot:
Posted on 4/10/15 at 2:37 pm to KajunGator
Couldn't really argue that there is an afterlife without a diety because it(the place;heaven or hell) would had to have been created by something, which in regards to a creator of anything could be labeled said dirty.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 10:24 pm to Rebel Land Shark
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Are those girls Atheist?
No they're ghosts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:46 pm to deltaland
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I've personally had a paranormal event happen to me. I don't care what people say, I know it's real.
Said every backwater redneck ever
Belief in ghosts is a combination of the human imagination, our fear of death and confirmation bias.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 12:53 am to Roger Klarvin
I'm an old anglican book of common prayer:
From ghosties and ghoulies and long legged beasties and things that go bump in the night, good lord deliver us.
From ghosties and ghoulies and long legged beasties and things that go bump in the night, good lord deliver us.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:15 am to Wtodd
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Technically you maybe correct but provide me specifics on when the word "bless" (or blessed, blessing, etc) would be used without the religious connotation. Not trolling here.
"You have my blessing." Which would fall under the #6 meaning...approval or good wishes. But overall your point is correct. The vast majority of the times the word is used in a religious tone.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 6:36 am to Roger Klarvin
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Said every backwater redneck ever
I'm pretty far from a backwater redneck and I'm not really afraid of death. It can't be confirmation bias because I didn't believe in the paranormal before I started to see things happen.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 2:45 pm to Stacked
TL;DR version: Can atheists believe in ghosts? No.
Do I believe in ghosts (I'm a Christian)? I believe in the Holy Spirit, and I believe demons are real as well.
An atheist believing in a ghost is not an atheist. According to ye ol Webster's:
one who believes that there is no deity - atheist.
While that statement does not pertain to ghosts, how can you have ghosts without an afterlife? How can you have an afterlife without a creator? I don't know of a religion on earth that believes in a some sort of afterlife without believing in a deity, even if they don't know what/who the deity is for sure.
As for me, I'm a Christian, so I'm clearly on the opposite end of the spectrum. As for ghosts however, I believe the soul of any human goes to face God after leaving this Earth. Once that soul is sent to Heaven or hell (which I don't wish on my worst enemy), they are there for good. No more interaction with this earth as for as I know, barring an exception possibly in the Book of Revelations which is a whole different ballgame.
In terms of spirits that can factor in our lives on earth:
The Holy Spirit (God) within Christians. He also reaches out to the lost. Obviously God can intervene in anyway He feels like.
Demons. Yes, I believe in demons, and I believe they can ONLY affect lost souls.
Do I believe in ghosts (I'm a Christian)? I believe in the Holy Spirit, and I believe demons are real as well.
An atheist believing in a ghost is not an atheist. According to ye ol Webster's:
one who believes that there is no deity - atheist.
While that statement does not pertain to ghosts, how can you have ghosts without an afterlife? How can you have an afterlife without a creator? I don't know of a religion on earth that believes in a some sort of afterlife without believing in a deity, even if they don't know what/who the deity is for sure.
As for me, I'm a Christian, so I'm clearly on the opposite end of the spectrum. As for ghosts however, I believe the soul of any human goes to face God after leaving this Earth. Once that soul is sent to Heaven or hell (which I don't wish on my worst enemy), they are there for good. No more interaction with this earth as for as I know, barring an exception possibly in the Book of Revelations which is a whole different ballgame.
In terms of spirits that can factor in our lives on earth:
The Holy Spirit (God) within Christians. He also reaches out to the lost. Obviously God can intervene in anyway He feels like.
Demons. Yes, I believe in demons, and I believe they can ONLY affect lost souls.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:21 pm to Wtodd
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provide me specifics on when the word "bless" (or blessed, blessing, etc) would be used without the religious connotation.
Our loss to Auburn in 1994 was a blessing in disguise because it hastened the departure of Curley Hallman as our head coach.
The father gave his blessing to the marriage between his daughter and her fiancé.
She has blessed us with her presence.
That's three off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:27 pm to Kodar
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How can you have an afterlife without a creator?
Same way you can have a life without one. Why would a creator be any more necessary for another "life" after this one than for this one?
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I don't know of a religion on earth that believes in a some sort of afterlife without believing in a deity
Don't pretty much all religions believe in some form of a deity? Why must a belief that our existence continues beyond the apparent death of our body be religious? There could be perfectly natural processes that preserve or convert the energy or information in our bodies into something else that continues after "death". I don't believe there is, but one would not have to be religious to believe it.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 10:32 pm to CatFan81
I am not sure I believe in ghosts, but I am not about to criticize someone for what they believe they witnessed when I was not present for the experience.
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