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re: Can anyone enlighten me about Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs)
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:07 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:07 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Humans and animals have completely different physiologies.
Chocolate kills dogs but not people.
Flea/Tick medicine for a dog will kill a cat with mere trace amounts.
Furthermore, commercial pet food is all derived from GMO sources but pets aren't dying early, they are living longer.
I'll repeat from earlier.... 99% of all food that people have eaten in the last 100 years is a GMO.
Chocolate kills dogs but not people.
Flea/Tick medicine for a dog will kill a cat with mere trace amounts.
Furthermore, commercial pet food is all derived from GMO sources but pets aren't dying early, they are living longer.
I'll repeat from earlier.... 99% of all food that people have eaten in the last 100 years is a GMO.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:08 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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If you want to believe what industry backed science tells you, the same people that have claimed things are safe to later tell us they're extremely harmful then more power to you.
You do realize industry gives out unrestricted grants, right? Meaning the industry can fund the research, but have no rights over the results.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:13 pm to deeprig9
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I'll repeat from earlier.... 99% of all food that people have eaten in the last 100 years is a GMO.
Yikes.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:16 pm to UMTigerRebel
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You do realize industry gives out unrestricted grants, right? Meaning the industry can fund the research, but have no rights over the results.
Do you realize that the industries themselves do the testing or contract someone to do the testing, then submit the results to the FDA?
Do you realize that the FDA is a revolving door between biotech companies? Work at Monsanto for 20 years, then work for the FDA.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:24 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Who should the fda hire instead? Chief Knockahoma?
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:33 pm to deeprig9
I would have ignored the point about the biotech companies doing their own research and submitting it to the FDA too if I was on your side of this debate.
It's certainly noteworthy that there is a revolving door between big biotech companies and the FDA. Perhaps, just maybe, after spending 20+ years working for Monsanto there could be a conflict of interest when it comes time to approving something they've developed.
Wait, am I really responding to someone that thinks 99% of all food eaten in the last 100 years has been GMO?
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Who should the fda hire instead? Chief Knockahoma?
It's certainly noteworthy that there is a revolving door between big biotech companies and the FDA. Perhaps, just maybe, after spending 20+ years working for Monsanto there could be a conflict of interest when it comes time to approving something they've developed.
Wait, am I really responding to someone that thinks 99% of all food eaten in the last 100 years has been GMO?
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:40 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Do you realize that the industries themselves do the testing or contract someone to do the testing, then submit the results to the FDA?
is all I have to say.Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:44 pm to UMTigerRebel
I know, it's pretty laughable that the biotech companies conduct their own research and/or contract others to do it for them and submit it to the FDA.
Here's an article about something a little different, how scientists must ask permission from corporations before publishing results from independent studies.
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Here's an article about something a little different, how scientists must ask permission from corporations before publishing results from independent studies.
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This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:53 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Odd that you would post an article from Scientific American that leads with ....
.... contradicting everything you've been telling us.
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Advances in agricultural technology—including, but not limited to, the genetic modification of food crops—have made fields more productive than ever. Farmers grow more crops and feed more people using less land. They are able to use fewer pesticides and to reduce the amount of tilling that leads to erosion.
.... contradicting everything you've been telling us.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 9:54 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I guess you didn't read my comment about unrestricted grants. I'm very familiar with them. The companies can't cover up the results.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:03 pm to deeprig9
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.... contradicting everything you've been telling us.
Read the next paragraph, or better yet, I'll share the first two sentences from it.
"Unfortunately, it is impossible to verify that genetically modified crops perform as advertised. That is because agritech companies have given themselves veto power over the work of independent researchers."
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:04 pm to UMTigerRebel
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I guess you didn't read my comment about unrestricted grants. I'm very familiar with them. The companies can't cover up the results.
I guess it's not sinking in that the companies themselves do and/or sponsor the testing.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:10 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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"Unfortunately, it is impossible to verify that genetically modified crops perform as advertised. That is because agritech companies have given themselves veto power over the work of independent researchers."
Except for the fact that it has been verified by a variety of sources. Why would farmers buy the seeds if they got shittier yields and had to use more pesticides?
But you'd say those sources are all industry insiders.
It's a big conspiracy to do something... not sure what.... but something... maybe give everyone celiac's disease or diabetes... because they are in cahoots with the healthcare oligarchy of drug companies.... more sick people, more profits... the FDA is the head of the snake...
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:20 pm to Sleeping Tiger
The European Union is in on the scam too..
Here's their 268 page conglomeration of their own EU funded research, all research projects on GMO's from 2000 to 2009.
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I wonder if the European Union was afraid of Monsanto suing them...
Here's their 268 page conglomeration of their own EU funded research, all research projects on GMO's from 2000 to 2009.
LINK
I wonder if the European Union was afraid of Monsanto suing them...
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:22 pm to deeprig9
It's not a conspiracy. Money calls all the shots in the US. It's the only thing that matters. If I had a dime for all the safe technology that was going to usher us into nirvana that subsequently caused a great deal of harm I'd be a very rich man
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:25 pm to MIZ_COU
You aren't much of a reader are you? Naw, you ain't never had much time for all the readin' books and stuff.
Tell me just 50 cents worth. I'm curious. Educate me.
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If I had a dime for all the safe technology that was going to usher us into nirvana that subsequently caused a great deal of harm I'd be a very rich man
Tell me just 50 cents worth. I'm curious. Educate me.
This post was edited on 5/29/14 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:26 pm to deeprig9
I am afraid reading your drivel will make me half as stupid as you
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:32 pm to deeprig9
You should tell us all more about how 99% of all food eaten in the last 100 years has been GMO.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:33 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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I guess it's not sinking in that the companies themselves do and/or sponsor the testing.
They do, but they have no influence on the results. I've seen it first hand.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:35 pm to UMTigerRebel
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guess it's not sinking in that the companies themselves do and/or sponsor the testing.
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They do, but they have no influence on the results
Umm, wow.
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