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Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:16 am to DMagic
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:16 am to DMagic
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Pot's not going to magically make productive people unproductive.
Not too sure about that. I work with a guy who says "if they legalize it, I'll be blazing every day."…..and that's in the Police Department. Granted, this same guy is about halfway a waste of perfectly good oxygen anyway, but I can't imagine it getting any better with him half-baked all the time.
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:31 am to Tantal
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The capitalist conservative in me says that legalization will be a bad idea economically.
I highly doubt the lost productivity - if any - we get from marijuana legalization would outweigh the billions of dollars wasted on the arrest and incarceration of drug dealers.
We spend billions of dollars a year on a losing war. That money could be used elsewhere.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:35 am to Dawg in Beaumont
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I agree that he's correct in that it will decrease productivity for some people. I have no doubts on that. My issue is that I don't see that as a reason for legality/illegality.
Y'all do realize that weed is legal in two states right? If y'all were really curious as to how marijuana legalization impacts productivity, then get your asses to Washington and Colorado and start collecting data. Otherwise you're just offering worthless conjecture.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:42 am to DCRebel
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Y'all do realize that weed is legal in two states right? If y'all were really curious as to how marijuana legalization impacts productivity, then get your asses to Washington and Colorado and start collecting data. Otherwise you're just offering worthless conjecture
The potential for false microcosm is too high for that. Colorado and California have pretty different cultures, heck, even Washington isn't nearly the same. I think it's best to just say that there will be a percentage of people who will in fact become unproductive and those that will benefit from legalization.
Although I do have to wonder if I'd try to limit smoking it -- which is much worse than any other intake. Interesting to see where Murica goes with this.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:45 am to Dawg in Beaumont
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I'm on board with that completely. To me, you should be allowed to completely ruin your body if you opt to, however if you are consuming things that impact your employability, the government shouldn't subsidize your ruination of your body. I wouldn't lock them up, just have some system for them to not receive the money.
Yeah. The current push for legalization would be fine with me without an entitlement state. Creating another dependent class doesn't excite me.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:46 am to DCRebel
DC, I think you may have taken my post wrong. I think Oreos/beer/facebook being allowed make SOME people less productive, same with pot. I don't think that should make any of them illegal. Gov. Brown and I may differ on how large that "some people" group is.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:49 am to the808bass
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Yeah. The current push for legalization would be fine with me without an entitlement state. Creating another dependent class doesn't excite me.
This is pretty accurate. We have to sit down and figure out what we are before we move forward on any of this. Like I said: Smoking is pretty bad for you even with marijuana, people have made the argument that it's not for a while but as time goes on we know this is not the case.
We either have to pay for their healthcare through corporations or government, and until we acknowledge this and stop paying for others I think making it illegal and outside of legally drawing money from the collective is the best approach. Philosophically no, financially yes.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:54 am to LSU1NSEC
How would the authorities be able to confirm that someone is high on marijuana while driving? For alcohol, a breathalyzer is able to quantify and confirm the BAC level in the drivers body. But how will the police be able to quantify how much marijuana someone has partaken in while they are behind the wheel?
If someone has red eyes, they may have allergies, if they are swerving they may be sleepy. A urine sample is able to reveal marijuana intake for up to a month. If the police suspect someone is driving while impaired on marijuana they need to be able to quantify their level of intake.
If someone has red eyes, they may have allergies, if they are swerving they may be sleepy. A urine sample is able to reveal marijuana intake for up to a month. If the police suspect someone is driving while impaired on marijuana they need to be able to quantify their level of intake.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:57 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
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How would the authorities be able to confirm that someone is high on marijuana while driving?
Toss a buncha cheetohs on the ground and wait it out.
Jokes aside: It would be difficult for -legal- proof but watch an episode of Cops and they almost know immediately. Potters ain't exactly good at Occlumency or whatever.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:58 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
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they need to be able to quantify their level of intake.
When this happens, and I'm sure it will soon, marijuana legalization will sweep the nation.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:00 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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watch an episode of Cops and they almost know immediately. Potters ain't exactly good at Occlumency or whatever.
You can't be serious...
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:01 am to DynastyDawg
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You can't be serious...
I was certain the Harry Potter reference was indicative.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:02 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Well I whiffed on that one.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:04 am to DynastyDawg
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Well I whiffed on that one.
Haha. In your defense it was pretty esoteric.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:10 am to DynastyDawg
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Shirley You can't be serious...
FIFY
And anyone that's ever lit a doobie will tell you, WORK production does not go up!
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:15 am to RTR America
For now but It will catch up with um. I was in your camp when I smoked, talk out about unmotivated.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:17 am to LSU1NSEC
weed man
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:20 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
Oh the test for THC levels will be developed, it's inevitable.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:25 am to Tantal
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The capitalist conservative in me says that legalization will be a bad idea economically.
No offense, but that is not a very capitalist conservative line of thinking.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:27 am to BAMAisDIESEL09
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How would the authorities be able to confirm that someone is high on marijuana while driving? For alcohol, a breathalyzer is able to quantify and confirm the BAC level in the drivers body. But how will the police be able to quantify how much marijuana someone has partaken in while they are behind the wheel?
If someone has red eyes, they may have allergies, if they are swerving they may be sleepy. A urine sample is able to reveal marijuana intake for up to a month. If the police suspect someone is driving while impaired on marijuana they need to be able to quantify their level of intake.
I agree with all of this, and assume they are coming up with a way of testing.
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