re: BJJ Competitions, and why I hate them.

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...only on the internet can somebody be shown to be wrong, then embarrassed by not comprehending a simple comment -- both validated by the only other person who stopped into this thread -- and then call the other person autistic and retarded.

What an amazing thing.

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I just know there's no talking sense with you -- nothing is on topic, everything is nuanced and no one understands. I'm sure you think every one of your victories was decisive, because you don't perceive the world through a cogent lens and you make no attempt to understand anything external. Thanks for letting me know it was your alter, piece of shite.

Hope no one dox you again so you have to threaten to kill yourself.

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-The only passer-by in this thread agreed with me and noted your inability to comprehend.

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And when pressed for content was inability to produce.

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-I shared a link from an mma forum were all the posters agreed with me and it wasn't even a debate, it was more people laughing off the position you took in the OP.

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His objection is much more simplified because he actually doesn't know grappling -- to which I do. So my question still stands: Why is getting dropped on your head by an uchi mata any different than getting dropped on your head by a wrestling spike?

Also, a black-belt responded in the same thread and sort of agreed with you, while dismantling the position altogether.

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anyone can do it, you only really see it in the white belt division, because by blue belt people will get the right angle on the triangle to break the persons posture and hook the leg if the guy tries to lift them.

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-- Which was my position from the very beginning.

Don't like being slammed? Learn to defend against slams, because it's literally the first thing someone untrained in any form of grappling (or a traditional wrestler) does.

I just disagree with the premise, it's a legitimate technique and should be worked into BJJ competition as it is absolutely a takedown and works in breaking a triangle.

Change the rule: If someone can lift your head above their knee, stand them up again.

It reminds me of when the Brazilians didn't want anyone to do leglocks anywhere at any level at any time because they thought it was too progressive.

''Leglocks in Brazilian jiu-jitsu are a relatively new phenomenon. It wasn’t that long ago that a person could get booed off the mats for submitting their opponent via leglock in a BJJ tournament. ''

So just to sum this up because I'm going to be brutally misrepresented as you tilt at your windmills:

My point, TL;DR: I think slamming is a part of the combat sport, just like all of the Judo throws that put you on your head. To keep people safe, they should make it so that when you lift someone above your knee during a submission they're stood up again.

Thanks for getting back on topic.

You would literally have nothing but cripples left. The body cannot take that much abuse for very long.

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Slamming an opponent is fine for training and practice. I am all for it. When both people understand it and take the appropriate steps to protect the long term health of the opponent. Competitions are between consenting individuals in a contest of skill but not trying to injure their opponent. You want them competitions to simulate real world events but the goal of real world events is to injure the other person or incapacitate them. One thing cannot be the other by the nature of the event.

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At any given tournament they go over the rules, and there are still, yet, slams in every competition. Wouldn't it be better just not to teach your students to perform flying guard pulls and how to defend someone picking you up than pretend like slams don't exist for the purpose of competition?

And if two people can agree in training purposes that slams are appropriate, why can't they do it for a tournament? And why would we still permit takedowns that spike you on your head but not slams?

The Uchi-Mata is perfectly legal, and often puts people directly on the top of their head.

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BJJ is the gentle art. Its emphasis is skill, not force, which is why force in the form of a slam is not rewarded in competition.

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What constitutes as skill can differentiate greatly, Judo is supposed to be the Gentle Way as well.

If you're not going to read, why bother responding? What one calls skillful another calls facile.

Like flying guard pulls, which almost always result in being slammed on your head because they don't work.

So why not get rid of facile moves like that?

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You've shown to have little understanding of the BJJ mindset and culture.

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Do you ever actually deal with the content rather than just saying it's nuanced? I have a feeling that Gnash and I can actually have a valid conversation and quite possibly reach some form of agreement between 1 (being the most realistic) and 10 (being the most competitive).

Yet I have to deal with someone who has said ''I'm out'' like four times, and who never leaves, and has openly admitted that he hasn't read the conversation.

Please, go. No one wanted you to come back after you pretended to kill yourself, no one wants you here now.

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You're upset your thread went horribly wrong.

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I knew it was unpopular when I started it because of all the whining going on in the background. ''Come on, man. ;-;'' So I asked myself, why not just hook the leg if someone is slamming out of a position? Why break an important defense (standing, smashing) when it's easily defended AND, simultaneously, applicable in the real world?

I want a conversation, but it's never that with you. So please, for the fifth time you've said goodbye, goodbye.

-Straws

Goddamn, you're so crazy.