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re: Atheists die sooner, are ill longer, and lead less happy lives than non-atheists
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:11 pm to Ridgewalker
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:11 pm to Ridgewalker
So what happens if you're wrong? You thought about that?
All that wasted time in church. All those times you prayed. All those times you seemed guidance from deceased loved ones.
They can't hear you. You know why? They've returned to the Earth. Eternal rest is silent, and black. And religion is nothing but a fairy tale to distract you from the cold truth. This is it folks. You get one ride. Live it.
All that wasted time in church. All those times you prayed. All those times you seemed guidance from deceased loved ones.
They can't hear you. You know why? They've returned to the Earth. Eternal rest is silent, and black. And religion is nothing but a fairy tale to distract you from the cold truth. This is it folks. You get one ride. Live it.
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:19 pm to Ridgewalker
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So what if you are wrong? Ever thought about that?
Why does every religious person think this is some great argument?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:20 pm to CatFan81
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Funny. I haven't even had so much as the common cold in years. I also lead a very content life. Funny how these studies work.
I don't think they were saying EVERY atheist is ill longer and die sooner. It's just like people who say the south is nothing but gun toting bigoted rednecks. I'm none of those things but that's what a large chunk of southerners are.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:21 pm to CNB
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And religion is nothing but a fairy tale
This is what you say if you want a religious person to hear you out and not get angry.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:21 pm to Gladius Veritas
I'm agnostic at best. I stopped believing after my 7 month old son died.
I want NOTHING to do with a fricker that would take a 7 month old from his mother.
I want NOTHING to do with a fricker that would take a 7 month old from his mother.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:25 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I don't think they were saying EVERY atheist is ill longer and die sooner. It's just like people who say the south is nothing but gun toting bigoted rednecks. I'm none of those things but that's what a large chunk of southerners are.
Because this was such a conclusive study
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:26 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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This is what you say if you want a religious person to hear you out and not get angry.
The point, regrettably, is rarely about being heard out. Religion, politics, team loyalty in sports...I've found people are more interested in proving their superiority than in actually having some kind of dialogue or reaching common ground.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:34 pm to GoBigOrange86
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The point, regrettably, is rarely about being heard out. Religion, politics, team loyalty in sports...I've found people are more interested in proving their superiority than in actually having some kind of dialogue or reaching common ground.
Bingo. Religious people need to figure out that they're not going to convert people by saying "REPENT OR BURN!" and atheists need to realize they don't sound intellectually superior by saying "You worship a fairy tale. All hail the flying spaghetti monster!" because it makes them no better than the Bible thumpers they hate.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:34 pm to GoBigOrange86
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people are more interested in proving their superiority than in actually having some kind of dialogue or reaching common ground.
Yep. In most cases with religion though, there likely won't be common ground.
I think Christians make the mistake of trying to "convince" others of Christianity. In my humble opinion, it's a mistake. You can't argue someone into salvation.
I like to think of the parable of the rich man, who went to Jesus and asked what he needed to do to be saved. He was told to sell all his belongings and to follow Jesus. This saddened him and he walked away. I learned 2 things from this...
1. Jesus didn't argue with the man. He simply told him what he needed to do. That's all Christians are to do, spread the word and knowledge. The decision at that point is on the receiver of it.
2. In not arguing and trying to convince the man, Jesus continued on his way, to help and spread the Word to those who would hear it. That means, again imho, that Christians can be discerning in who and how they help. One need not waste time on those who don't wish to know or learn and their time is better spent going to those who haven't been reached.
Just my opinion of course.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:38 pm to Alahunter
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Yep. In most cases with religion though, there likely won't be common ground.
I think Christians make the mistake of trying to "convince" others of Christianity. In my humble opinion, it's a mistake. You can't argue someone into salvation.
I like to think of the parable of the rich man, who went to Jesus and asked what he needed to do to be saved. He was told to sell all his belongings and to follow Jesus. This saddened him and he walked away. I learned 2 things from this...
1. Jesus didn't argue with the man. He simply told him what he needed to do. That's all Christians are to do, spread the word and knowledge. The decision at that point is on the receiver of it.
2. In not arguing and trying to convince the man, Jesus continued on his way, to help and spread the Word to those who would hear it. That means, again imho, that Christians can be discerning in who and how they help. One need not waste time on those who don't wish to know or learn and their time is better spent going to those who haven't been reached.
Just my opinion of course.
All of this. Just plant the seed and if the soil is has the nutrients, then it will grow. You can't force something to grow somewhere but you have to at least spread the word and not in a douche way.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:39 pm to CatFan81
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Funny. I haven't even had so much as the common cold in years. I also lead a very content life. Funny how these studies work...
I wouldn't be surprised if you fall over dead soon.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:41 pm to Carolina_Girl
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Carolina_Girl
Sorry for your loss. Couldn't imagine the pain.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:42 pm to Carolina_Girl
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I'm agnostic at best. I stopped believing after my 7 month old son died.
I want NOTHING to do with a fricker that would take a 7 month old from his mother.
Sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how I would cope with something like that. Can't blame you for not believing anymore. Sometimes I wish I could force myself to believe, but too many bad things happen to good people that it all seems so stochastic and pointless.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 12:43 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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This is what you say if you want a religious person to hear you out and not get angry.
Sorry. Guess if my life wasn't so short and selfish I'd come up with more meaningful conversation.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:04 pm to cokebottleag
So you link to a blog, that links to a Heritage Foundation (very conservative think tank) interpretation of studies and, and that also cites some random editorial from a no name newspaper.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:09 pm to Roger Klarvin
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BUT we get to sleep in on Sunday and have premarital relations
I do (and did) dis
Cuz I'll have my cake and eat it too
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:12 pm to CNB
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So what happens if you're wrong? You thought about that?
All that wasted time in church. All those times you prayed.
Conversely....
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All those times you sought guidance from deceased loved ones.
Ummmm, dafuq?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
They're gone man. Let it go. Let it go. Don't hold it back anymore.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:17 pm to CNB
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Let it go. Let it go. Don't hold it back anymore.
**turns away from CNB and slams the nearest door**
Posted on 12/24/14 at 1:18 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Painkillers man.
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