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Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:50 pm to MagicCityBlazer
Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:50 pm to MagicCityBlazer
That's cool. Something I've never understood is people being staunchly athiest. Why not just be agnostic, which is the most plausible of any of the beliefs? I just don't see the point about being in your face about what you don't believe in.
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:51 pm to OBReb6
Because Richard Dawkins's snarky comments now come in brochure form. It's just so convenient!
Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:53 pm to OBReb6
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I just don't see the point about being in your face about what you don't believe in.
Nor do I. I believe some think they feel intellectually superior, but the fervor with which they try to convince others not to believe is baffling at times to me.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:55 pm to OBReb6
People have been in my face about "what they believe in" all of my life.
So I don't really care about rustling jimmies.
As for the Agnostic thing,
I would need evidence of a higher power before I would find it plausible, not the other way around.
I'm A-Diest, not really so much A-theist. But whatever. The point is that religious activity is a dangerous thing in society.
Lots of evil things have been done in the name of religion, in fact to paraphrase Hitchens it is what lets good people do bad things to each other.
So I don't really care about rustling jimmies.
As for the Agnostic thing,
I would need evidence of a higher power before I would find it plausible, not the other way around.
I'm A-Diest, not really so much A-theist. But whatever. The point is that religious activity is a dangerous thing in society.
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I believe some think they feel intellectually superior, but the fervor with which they try to convince others not to believe is baffling at times to me.
Lots of evil things have been done in the name of religion, in fact to paraphrase Hitchens it is what lets good people do bad things to each other.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:59 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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People have been in my face about "what they believe in" all of my life.
As in all walks of life, there are those that go too far.
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The point is that religious activity is a dangerous thing in society.
It depends on the tenants of a particular religion. Not all teach violence or encourage it against those who do not conform to their beliefs.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 2:59 pm to Alahunter
Because I think the arguments from both sides are silly, and they entertain me.
Celebrate what you want, or don't celebrate. Whatever.
Celebrate what you want, or don't celebrate. Whatever.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:00 pm to MagicCityBlazer
Religion isn't dangerous
Religion in the hands of crazy people is dangerous. But that's true for anything. Alabama football is dangerous in the hands of crazy people. Atheism is insanely dangerous in the hands of crazy people.
If all religion were to cease to exist, violence would not decrease. Instead of crazy Muslims and crazy Christians killing each other, you'd have GoT fans killing TWD fans or some shite.
If you truly believe religion is dangerous, then you must actually believe it has some higher power. Since it's just made up, why would it be any more dangerous than anything else we've made up? The real truth is... people are dangerous. The end.
Religion in the hands of crazy people is dangerous. But that's true for anything. Alabama football is dangerous in the hands of crazy people. Atheism is insanely dangerous in the hands of crazy people.
If all religion were to cease to exist, violence would not decrease. Instead of crazy Muslims and crazy Christians killing each other, you'd have GoT fans killing TWD fans or some shite.
If you truly believe religion is dangerous, then you must actually believe it has some higher power. Since it's just made up, why would it be any more dangerous than anything else we've made up? The real truth is... people are dangerous. The end.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:00 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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Lots of evil things have been done in the name of religion, in fact to paraphrase Hitchens it is what lets good people do bad things to each other
Lots have been done without religion being involved. Man is inherently sinful and selfish and will use whatever means they can to achieve power. This isn't the fault of all religions, but of man.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:02 pm to Alahunter
Is it too late for an "IN"? 
Just gonna post up over here for a bit. Carry on, y'all
Just gonna post up over here for a bit. Carry on, y'all
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:04 pm to genro
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Religion isn't dangerous
Religion in the hands of crazy people is dangerous. But that's true for anything. Alabama football is dangerous in the hands of crazy people. Atheism is insanely dangerous in the hands of crazy people.
If all religion were to cease to exist, violence would not decrease. Instead of crazy Muslims and crazy Christians killing each other, you'd have GoT fans killing TWD fans or some shite.
If you truly believe religion is dangerous, then you must actually believe it has some higher power. Since it's just made up, why would it be any more dangerous than anything else we've made up? The real truth is... people are dangerous. The end.
I fricking had to quote this whole thing.
Cuz it's the damn truth.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:05 pm to Alahunter
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Man is inherently sinful
What is "sin"?
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This isn't the fault of all religions, but of man.
Seems to contradict the concept of a creator many religions have. How can we be flawed beings but held to a punishment?
Is God not all-knowing and all-powerful?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:06 pm to Alahunter
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If you truly believe religion is dangerous, then you must actually believe it has some higher power. Since it's just made up, why would it be any more dangerous than anything else we've made up? The real truth is... people are dangerous. The end.
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Lots have been done without religion being involved. Man is inherently sinful and selfish and will use whatever means they can to achieve power. This isn't the fault of all religions, but of man.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:07 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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What is "sin"?
an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.
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How can we be flawed beings but held to a punishment?
We're given free will and the choice to be more than we are.
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Is God not all-knowing and all-powerful?
IMO, yes.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:09 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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The point is that religious activity is a dangerous thing in society. quote:
So is driving a car, we need to do away with those death machines
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:10 pm to Alahunter
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an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.
WTF is Divine Law?
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We're given free will and the choice to be more than we are.
See that can't be right. That would mean that God knowingly made "broken toys" that he sent to hell. What an a-hole.
Can God create a boulder he can't lift?
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If you truly believe religion is dangerous, then you must actually believe it has some higher power. Since it's just made up, why would it be any more dangerous than anything else we've made up? The real truth is... people are dangerous. The end.
Not at all. Religions have been used to justify violence and hatred across the globe.
Surely you are joking?
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:13 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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That would mean that God knowingly made "broken toys" that he sent to hell
None are Righteous, but He. Man is fallible, history, as you pointed out shows that. He chose to give man free will and the choice to make their own decisions. In doing so, He also provided a path for them to do what is/was pleasing to Him. To blame Him for our own failings is the epitome of selfishness and ego.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:14 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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Religions have been used to justify violence and hatred across the globe.
It's also been used to commit genocide against those of certain religions by secular Gov't's. Again, the failing is in man. Not religion.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:14 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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TbirdSpur2010
Your sig quote is from Django, obviously. Is it also a reference to your football team? If so, nicely done.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:15 pm to Alahunter
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To blame Him for our own failings is the epitome of selfishness and ego.
Alright.
An all-powerful and all-knowing God created me, knowing I would fail to believe in him. Sends me to hell like he knew he would. Then justifies it with "free will"?
What a monster.
To paraphrase Hitchens it is spiritual North Korea.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 3:16 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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Not at all. Religions have been used to justify violence and hatred across the globe.
By people, whom as Genro pointed out, are dangerous, The End.
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