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Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 3:06 pm to
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That's probably you opinion of the founding fathers also


Please don't compare these guys to our Founding Fathers. They don't even have sense enough to properly address their concerns with the federal government and certainly aren't in a similar situation.

If they're using potential violence and threats to influence policy change they're no different than Black Lives Matters, who also fit the definition of domestic terrorists.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 3:16 pm to
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Most Americans should feel this way, but express it in the voting booth.




What happens when you realize that even tough there are 2 sides, the coin is still the coin?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:16 pm to
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influence policy change


Federal land Mgrs are the thugs. There has to be policy change.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 4:26 pm to
This country needs a lot of change, that included.

Holding up a federal building and threatening to kill anyone who comes within distance isn't exactly what I'd consider a reasonable path to take for change.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 6:22 pm to
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What happens when you realize that even tough there are 2 sides, the coin is still the coin?


You remember the coin can only land one side up at a time?
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:33 pm to
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What happens when you realize that even tough there are 2 sides, the coin is still the coin?


Why voting for trump is becoming less and less appalling, sadly.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:01 pm to
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Why voting for trump is becoming less and less appalling, sadly.



I wish Mark Cuban got in the race.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:34 am to
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Holding up a federal building and threatening to kill anyone who comes within distance isn't exactly what I'd consider a reasonable path to take for change.


Wow did they do that? I can't find that anywhere.

But that is the bullshite narrative the lefties are spewing.

I mean, does anyone actually read the facts anymore?
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:02 am to
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Extreme right wing trash in action.
That's probably you opinion of the founding fathers also


The founding fathers were quick to crush armed rebellion.

Shay's rebellion

Whiskey Rebellion
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:21 am to
Waco 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:40 am to
You are ignorant.

Neither Clinton nor Obama are far leftist socialist.

They are center right pro-business crooks.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
98952 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 8:58 am to
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Wow did they do that? I can't find that anywhere.


Is the Wildlife Refuge they've occupied not a federal building?

Have they not said they will kill if they have to?

Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:29 am to
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Is the Wildlife Refuge they've occupied not a federal building?


Building on the refuge.

quote:

Have they not said they will kill if they have to?


Yes.

LINK
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28860 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:32 am to
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Neither Clinton nor Obama are far leftist socialist.

They are center right pro-business crooks.


i would argue that Obama is a moderate socialist. he's not as bad as the poli board thinks, but he's a lot more left that the Spleen thinks.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:49 am to
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Federal land Mgrs are the thugs. There has to be policy change.



Dis
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:19 pm to
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“We’re going to be freeing these lands up, and getting ranchers back to ranching, getting the loggers back to logging, getting the miners back to mining where they could do it under the protection of the people and not be afraid of this tyranny that’s been set upon them,” Ammon Bundy, who appears to be the leader of the group, said in a Facebook video posted by Sarah Dee Spurlock on Saturday.
The audacity of some Americans actually believing they have the freedom and liberty to live life from underneath the thumb of government.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:25 pm to
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Neither Clinton nor Obama are far leftist socialist.

They are center right pro-business crooks.
They are Fascist globalist puppets, just like the rest.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:27 pm to
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What happens when you realize that even tough there are 2 sides, the coin is still the coin?
On TD you get called a conspiracy theorist.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:17 pm to
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quote:
Most Americans should feel this way, but express it in the voting booth.



What happens when you realize that even tough there are 2 sides, the coin is still the coin?


I still can't fathom that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are the best our country has to offer in this upcoming election. I honestly might not vote, and I've NEVER said that before.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 1:27 pm to
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i would argue that Obama is a moderate socialist. he's not as bad as the poli board thinks, but he's a lot more left that the Spleen thinks.



Well, depends on the issue. I don't really care for how "socialist" has become a pejorative as I think we're a somewhat socialist country already. I don't think Obama is any more "socialist" than most other Democrats, though certainly moreso than any Republicans are. The one area he could have exerted some of that socialism, he failed to do by not pushing for a public option in the ACA.
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