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Armed militia gathering in Oregon ...

Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:52 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37559 posts
Posted on 1/2/16 at 11:52 pm
... and this could go sideways in a hurry.

These boys are not playing apparently.

https://www.rt.com/usa/327762-armed-bundy-militia-oregon-ranchers/

Our media is not covering it naturally. But if we see others start flocking to their aid up there ... it'll be interesting to see how Obama responds.
Posted by BaconGrease
Memphis Tenn
Member since Jun 2013
751 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 12:43 am to
Waco 2.0
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37559 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 12:59 am to
quote:

Waco 2.0


This one is a little different, although there are parallels.

Both administrations at the time were/are far leftist socialist liberal progressives with corrupt people calling the shots.

Both administrations have corrupt Justice Departments giving orders.

But Waco involved a crazy church/religion and some armed church members.

These guys in Oregon ... they are not going to be so easy if it comes to that. These guys seem pissed off and jacked-up for a fight. They seem genuinely pissed at the Federal Government and they feel they have a right to be pissed ... they are apparently willing to fight for a completely different cause according to their statements.
Posted by BaconGrease
Memphis Tenn
Member since Jun 2013
751 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 1:34 am to
quote:

They seem genuinely pissed at the Federal Government and they feel they have a right to be pissed ..


Well now that narrows it down, doesn't it?

If they bow up the Feds have more men and gunpower. So if they feel froggy and jump how will this not be like Waco 2.0?
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20463 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 1:43 am to
That was good for a chuckle. Thanks mate.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 2:55 am to
These guys would be better served by selling all their tact-cool gear and hiring really good lawyers. That's how we fight injustice in this country. Their current path leads to ruin.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
4975 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 7:17 am to
A.K.A. The Darwinsim Boys.

Monumental dumbfricks.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 7:56 am to
Extreme right wing trash in action.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:36 am to
quote:

These guys would be better served by selling all their tact-cool gear and hiring really good lawyers. That's how we fight injustice in this country.
That's because the country has become just a bunch of pussies

quote:

Extreme right wing trash in action.
That's probably you opinion of the founding fathers also
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20463 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:47 am to
quote:

That's probably you opinion of the founding fathers also




Dope take Fernando.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:13 am to
These guys aren't even from Oregon, and the locals don't even want them there. The two guys they're rallying over have even distanced themselves from them.

These "militia" groups have been around out there since the 70's. Back then they were the Sagebrush Rebellion.
Posted by Tropic Lightning
South Florida
Member since Nov 2006
923 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 9:14 am to
If they fight asymmetricly, gain organic momentum, they will win like in Nevada.

But there won't be a fight because our government only picks on individuals who can't defend themselves.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Both administrations at the time were/are far leftist socialist liberal progressives


Clinton:

Welfare reform
Defense of Marriage Act
Balanced budget with surpluses
Trade deals like NAFTA and GATT, which greatly benefitted large corporations
Religious Freedom Restoration Act (the basis for the recent Hobby Lobby decision by SCOTUS)
Average deficit spending 0.1% of GDP (8.4% under Obama)

From The American Conservative:

quote:

Clinton’s record on government spending and deficits isn’t just better from a conservative perspective than Obama’s. It is superior to George W. Bush’s. The Republican-controlled Congress deserves some of the credit (though their fiscal discipline started to wane as early as 1998). But while Clinton was president, congressional Republicans were trying to cut spending and balance the budget. When Bush took over, they voted for deficits and government growth.

Even the Republicans were better under Clinton.


His reapportionment plan in Arkansas as governor was found by SCOTUS to be a "systematic and deliberate attempt to reduce black political opportunity" in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

This is what passes for a "far leftist socialist liberal progressive"? Anyone calling Bill Clinton a radical or an extremist is far more of one than he ever was.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:23 am to
I'd take someone with Clinton's beliefs(the 1990s blue dog version anyway) in office over Scrooster's a million times out of a million and I'll only vote Republican or not vote at all.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29639 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Nuts4LSU


solid post
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 10:31 am
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28780 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 12:31 pm to
While I super don't like Clinton or what he and his wife are today, his presidency was pretty right of middle at worst.

He had a congress that did stuff, despite their differences. Newt actually could negotiate and work through things unlike the spineless dickfaces a that just say bad things about Obama but don't do anything about it or offer other solutions.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 12:51 pm
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5142 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 12:36 pm to
You seem like you admire them. Am I reading the situation correctly?

As a side note, the Far Left is claiming this somehow demonstrates racial double standards.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 1:10 pm to
One blackhawk and it would all be over
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

Extreme right wing trash in action.
The founding fathers were as liberal as it gets
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118802 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

They seem genuinely pissed at the Federal Government


Most Americans should feel this way, but express it in the voting booth.
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