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re: Are Mormons Christians?

Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 3:59 pm to
The mormons have tried very hard to repair their image after their early teachings on blacks. Same with polygamy. They will tell you today that they have a membership of around 500,000 blacks in their faith.

What they don't tell you is that most of those people live in very poor parts of Africa or the Caribbean. So you have to take it with a grain of salt. A lot of those people will tell you they believe in the divinity of a golden dog turd if it meant they get a good meal.
Posted by GumpInLex
Lexington, KY
Member since Nov 2011
1617 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:19 pm to
Saying Mormons are Christians is the same as saying Christians are Jews.
There is nothing Christian about the book of Mormon.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4439 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:28 pm to
if you ask Mormons - yes they call themselves christians

not sure on the offical stance of the vatican, southern bapt. convension, weslyian orgs but i would assume that they consider mormonism a cult
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39981 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:29 pm to
That a nice pic and all but he never actually said that.
Posted by Aggie Fishfinder
Republic of Texas
Member since Feb 2012
4260 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:33 pm to
It's gotta be real. His quotes are all over the internet.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39981 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 4:39 pm to
I tried posting the one of Ane Lincoln and the Internet but my phone didn't like them.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

They believe in Christ as the resurrected son of God and the path to salvation.


Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.

Actually, Christianity has more in common with Islam than Mormonism.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24543 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 5:37 pm to


I don't know where the heck he came up with the magic underwear.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 9:34 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 5:43 pm to
As I remember, the polygamy came a few years after its founding and he claimed he had a revelation that elders were allowed to have multiple wives. I think while they were settled in Illinois, after being chased out of New Hampshire. They soon got chased out of Illinois into Missouri, then on to Utah. Even folks in the 1800's recognized them for the cult they were.


I read a really fascinating book half Joseph Smith biography, and half Mormon church history a few years ago. Wish I could remember the name of it. I'll try to remember the title for those interested.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

That a nice pic and all but he never actually said that.


That's correct. In the 1925 book The Christ of the Indian Road, E. Stanley Jones asked Gandhi how it would be possible to bring India to Christ. Gandhi replied,

"First, I would suggest that all of you Christians live more like Jesus Christ. Second, I would suggest that you practice your Christianity without adulterating it. The anomalous situation is that most of us would be equally shocked to see Christianity doubted or put into practice. Third, I would suggest that you put more emphasis on love, for love is the soul and center of Christianity. Fourth, I would suggest that you study the non-Christian religions more sympathetically in order to find the good that is in them, so that you might have a more sympathetic approach to the people."

It was boiled down to the pithy quote by unknown authors.

Posted by 2smooth
Member since Jan 2015
2777 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 6:50 pm to
A lot fuzzy. I am sure that is a fun story to tell though.

Some funny posts in here.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:41 pm to
Mormons think Jesus came from outer space.
Posted by Jiggy Moondust
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2013
811 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:00 pm to
One of their prophets saw Bigfoot.. Said he was Cain wandering the earth.. Happened in Tennessee..
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 8:01 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118963 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 8:54 pm to
The problem is that Christians are people, human, fallible people. Only God is perfect. The rest of us have to suffer with our best attempts to be Christlike, which is about as close to impossible to do as you can imagine.

Now, do all Christians try to emulate Christ in every aspect of their lives. No, and that is another part of the problem. But there are those that do, but they don't get much attention. The only one I know that did is Billy Graham.

Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

The only one I know that did is Billy Graham.


The Grahams, Billy and his son Franklin, represent a great example of what has happened to Christianity in this country. Billy Graham was, essentially, apolitical and did his work in the name of Christ. I never met a person who disliked him.

His career was devoted to offering the Word of Christ. I can't remember Billy Graham ever condemning anyone who didn't pay heed to his messages.

Franklin Graham, on the other hand, is a foaming-at-the-mouth politically right-wing agitator who embraces politics and is more than happy to condemn anyone who disagrees with his messages. He is as polarizing as any left- or right-wing fanatic.

I hate the mixing of religion and politics. The outcome is always hateful and demeaning towards someone or group. It's awful.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64979 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 1:26 am to
The correct word one uses when describing Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses is "heretic."

Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Are Mormons Christians?


It's all fairy tales so what difference does it make
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8175 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:35 am to
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In the end, all other issues are irrelevant. For the individual, this is the only question that matters.



There is still some nuance to salvation even amongst other Christians, even within Protestant denominations. As an example, some believe in predestination and others do not. Catholics believe that it is faith and works rather than faith alone. And everyone has their own evidence based on scripture, such as James 2:14-16.

Applying faith in Christ alone as the measuring stick for Christianity is basically saying what I believe is the only thing that can academically be called Christianity because it is what I believe and therefore correct.

The OP should be clarified on whether academically Mormons qualify as Christians or if it is your religious belief that they qualify. Westerners look at the different Muslim groups as all Muslims but they have very different opinions of one another based on beliefs they deem heretical.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3494 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:14 pm to
I think it depends on how you define "Christian". If you define it more in the evangelical term, then no they wouldn't be. If you define it more broad, yes they would be.


Although people would be a lot better off focusing less on the specific "denomination" or "sect" and start focusing on the love behind the religion, but that's just my opinion.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105399 posts
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:05 pm to
Agreed, it is amusing how many "Christians" have no clue what that means. Or in other words being Christlike but spend there days spewing hate. It's quite interesting to read and view the hypocrisy.
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