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re: Are bannings actually based on traffic generation?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:36 pm to cokebottleag
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:36 pm to cokebottleag
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You're kind of the Aggie Steve Urkle. And who gets mad when Urkle tries to troll? Only Carl Winslow, that's who.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:39 pm to BuccWildBammer
That was an irrelevant post. This isn't about proving I'm unbannable or saying I've done worse than everyone who has been banned. There are big inconsistencies. Think of other examples
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:43 pm to genro
There are variables like how long the poster has been here, it also matters when you do the troll or offensive post. If you do it and it causes a baby back bitch to ra then you will likely be banned. If you happen to do it in a thread where people are going to argue back then you likely wont be banned. It probably also depends on which admin happens to see it.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:50 pm to heartbreakTiger
Correct. Lots of variables.
1). Admin who is on duty
2). Poster base doing the RAing (is it LSU? More likely to get banned. Is it a non-rival of LSU doing the RAing? Neutral. Is it a rival of LSU doing the RAing? Less likely to get banned)
3). Have you been banned recently? Corollary: are you a "problem poster"?
And then there's just automatic bannings: porn, gifs of women pooping out a moving van window, doxxing bans, the completely understandable Katrina joke bans and Aggie bonfire bans (you can see these coming a mile away) to the odd automatic bannings re: coaches' wives discussions (I'm not getting any closer to that topic).
1). Admin who is on duty
2). Poster base doing the RAing (is it LSU? More likely to get banned. Is it a non-rival of LSU doing the RAing? Neutral. Is it a rival of LSU doing the RAing? Less likely to get banned)
3). Have you been banned recently? Corollary: are you a "problem poster"?
And then there's just automatic bannings: porn, gifs of women pooping out a moving van window, doxxing bans, the completely understandable Katrina joke bans and Aggie bonfire bans (you can see these coming a mile away) to the odd automatic bannings re: coaches' wives discussions (I'm not getting any closer to that topic).
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:54 pm to the808bass
ah i don't think teams standing against LSU factors in very much considering I've been banned for little things because i caused bama fans to lose their shite and melt hard, aggie fans ra'd me and i was banned for like five minutes, and i was banned because arky fans ra'd me calling one of their fans fat.
Im sure there is a slight bias to not always ban the LSU fans that do shite but they do also compensate by banning the more well known posters.
Im sure there is a slight bias to not always ban the LSU fans that do shite but they do also compensate by banning the more well known posters.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 10:57 pm to heartbreakTiger
Posters have been banned for excessive RAing. As they should be.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 11:12 pm to the808bass
So they're just petty, spiteful, play favorites, and respect one another's pettiness?
Because we've been told the SECRant isn't an LSU site.
Let's say they have internal discussions regarding bannings. Is it about protecting the LSU perspective of the site despite their promotion of it as an all-inclusive site? Is it about fanhood and hurt feelings and offense and pettiness? Or is it about what's best for traffic?
Because we've been told the SECRant isn't an LSU site.
Let's say they have internal discussions regarding bannings. Is it about protecting the LSU perspective of the site despite their promotion of it as an all-inclusive site? Is it about fanhood and hurt feelings and offense and pettiness? Or is it about what's best for traffic?
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 7/20/15 at 11:14 pm to genro
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it about what's best for traffic
Posted on 7/20/15 at 11:27 pm to genro
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So they're just petty, spiteful, play favorites, and respect one another's pettiness?
I think they're just not very cognizant of their own internal bias.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 11:44 pm to the808bass
But they can't all have the same bias all the time. If Admin B disagrees does he simply bite his tongue and respect the other's bias? This is the established internal decorum - to just let one another be douchebags? Shitty practice for a successful website built on ad revenue
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:08 am to genro
I don't think they have all the same bias all the time. Some are more self-aware than others.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:15 am to the808bass
quote:Bye 808. See you in a month or so
But I'm not saying more about it. Because the last time I discussed it I was banned for discussing the time I was banned.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:19 am to heartbreakTiger
quote:This is what I've always thought
There are variables like how long the poster has been here, it also matters when you do the troll or offensive post. If you do it and it causes a baby back bitch to ra then you will likely be banned. If you happen to do it in a thread where people are going to argue back then you likely wont be banned. It probably also depends on which admin happens to see it.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:21 am to the808bass
I'm seriously asking. The more self-aware admin notices the other Admin being unfair. What does he do?
The entire draw of this site is user-generated content. You're the owner of the site out to attract and maintain users and make money off ads. You let the admins have free rein and ban people on whims and biases? There's no strategy whatsoever?
The entire draw of this site is user-generated content. You're the owner of the site out to attract and maintain users and make money off ads. You let the admins have free rein and ban people on whims and biases? There's no strategy whatsoever?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 12:43 am to genro
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The more self-aware admin notices the other Admin being unfair. What does he do?
It depends. Sometimes I have heard of people being reinstated as soon as it was brought to another admin's attention.
And the number of banned posters is a very small percentage of the overall site traffic. You could ban everyone who frequents the SECROT and not really affect site traffic.
But, I do think some posters have become "starring characters" and their banning may drive as much of a narrative of a site culture as their non-bannings would. And ultimately they'll be back, even though they're a pain in the arse to the admins (see killz).
But in the end, it's probably more about what makes more or less work for them in a lot of cases. Knowing you have to deal with 40 RAs everyone killz posts a thread could get annoying. (But the rant is far more tolerant of killz than our Tigerboard, which can ban a poster by downvoting. He usually doesn't last an hour there.)
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:13 am to the808bass
I guess I didn't think about RA's and banning people being a super annoying job to do.
What I see regarding bannings is that there is an LSU bias, highly unpopular posters get banned unfairly. So admins are biased or annoyed by RA's; ultimately being part of or giving in to the mob mentality.
But sometimes unpopular posters who are effectively provocative are given a free pass and get away with shite. They let the good trolls run free for a while.
I'm backing off from the OP and saying there's actually a sophisticated analysis in place, but I still think known traffic trends are sometimes a consideration for banning, not banning, or unbanning particular users
What I see regarding bannings is that there is an LSU bias, highly unpopular posters get banned unfairly. So admins are biased or annoyed by RA's; ultimately being part of or giving in to the mob mentality.
But sometimes unpopular posters who are effectively provocative are given a free pass and get away with shite. They let the good trolls run free for a while.
I'm backing off from the OP and saying there's actually a sophisticated analysis in place, but I still think known traffic trends are sometimes a consideration for banning, not banning, or unbanning particular users
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 1:18 am
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:16 am to heartbreakTiger
I very rarely post on TD, but I got a post nuked after the Bama/LSU game last year because I decided to defend the Million Dollar Band. I didn't talk shite about TGBFTL or anything LSU related, but I wasn't about to sit there and let them bash us (and in a way me). Like 5 min after I posted my post was deleted. I couldn't even see who responded to me.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:33 am to genro
Yeah when I got banned it was for complete horseshite. I see shite worse on the daily.
All I said was during the 2011 iron bowl that a player didn't come back for the rest if the game cause he was killing us. Forget who it was, but that he would be back the next week for the championship and I got a good 6-8 month banning.
All I said was during the 2011 iron bowl that a player didn't come back for the rest if the game cause he was killing us. Forget who it was, but that he would be back the next week for the championship and I got a good 6-8 month banning.
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:34 am to auzach91
How do you know if you've been banned? How do you know if you've been unbanned?
Posted on 7/21/15 at 1:39 am to Carolina Tide
I got a private message that said I was banned, and I couldn't post.
I have friends irl that post here and told me when a reinstatement thread came along and they helped me get back.
I have friends irl that post here and told me when a reinstatement thread came along and they helped me get back.
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