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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:24 pm to The Spleen
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yes, the documentary was biased
I will make sure to watch it then
Posted on 2/18/16 at 5:21 pm to scrooster
The black n mild made me lol
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:27 pm to scrooster
The original BP only used violence to combat violence, not initiate it; where MLK was completely against all forms. I find it ironic that they were using their second amendment rights to bear arms yet they are vilified by conservative whites, many of whose sole purpose on this earth is to flaunt their second amendment rights.
Posted on 2/18/16 at 9:41 pm to The Spleen
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It was really well done with lots of storytelling from former members. Learned a lot from it, including what BS a lot of the narrative about the Black Panthers has been over the years. Also further illustrated what despicable human beings J Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon were.
Check it out if you get the chance. I think it's streaming on PBS's site now.
They were racist scumbags who raped, murdered, and terrorized people.
Surely you cannot be so fricking stupid as to believe any leftist propaganda that they were anything else.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:05 am to Masterag
I feel the same way about John Wayne Gacy and Ted Bundy. They were mischaracterized killing all those people, when really they were just defending themselves.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:46 am to cajunbama
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How northalabamacracker.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:54 am to The Spleen
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Also further illustrated what despicable human beings J Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon were.
Little sheep like you who are so easily indoctrinated are despicable.
At least it was never questioned whether Nixon and Hoover were on America's side.
Here is one of your Black Panther 'leaders'.
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Eldridge Cleaver:
As a teenager, he was involved in petty crime and spent time in youth detention centers. At the age of eighteen, he was convicted of a felony drug charge and sent to the adult prison at Soledad. In 1958, he was convicted of rape and assault with intent to murder and eventually served time in Folsom and San Quentin prisons.
While in prison, he was given a copy of the Communist Manifesto.
Cleaver petitioned for habeas corpus to the Solano County Court and was granted it along with a release of a $50,000 bail.
While in prison, he wrote a number of philosophical and political essays, first published in Ramparts magazine and then in book form as Soul on Ice. In the essays, Cleaver traces his own development from a "supermasculine menial" to a radical black liberationist, and his essays became highly influential in the black power movement.
In the most controversial part of the book, Cleaver acknowledges committing acts of rape, stating that he initially raped black women in the ghetto "for practice" and then embarked on the serial rape of white women. He described these crimes as politically inspired, motivated by a genuine conviction that the rape of white women was "an insurrectionary act".
What a great bunch of guys.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:13 am to Hometown Hero
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At least it was never questioned whether Nixon and Hoover were on America's side.
The same Nixon that scuttled the Vietnam peace talks that may have ended the conflict while he was running for President? That Nixon? He had the blood of more Americans on his hands than the Black Panthers could even dream about.
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What a great bunch of guys.
Where did I say they were a great bunch of guys? I said myself in an earlier post they had an ugly side to them, and the documentary glossed over that. The documentary was interesting and it proved to me the Black Panthers were not the black supremacist threat to American peace they were portrayed to be by law enforcement in the late 60's and early 70's. In fact, when Fred Hampton forged an alliance with Puerto Rican gangs in Chicago, along with impoverished whites from Appalachia, the FBI and the Chicago police murdered him in an ambush as part of the COINTEL program. That alliance threatened their propaganda message of them being racist black supremacists that you seem to still buy today.
And you accuse me of being indoctrinated. Comical.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:31 am to The Spleen
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And you accuse me of being indoctrinated. Comical.
You must be a millennial. Absolutely no clue about the era you're trying to discuss.
Nixon ended Kennedy and Johnson's war. He stopped the bloodshed started by your liberals.
To call the Black Panthers anything other than a domestic terrorist organization founded by convicted rapists, murderers, and thieves is intellectually dishonest.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:42 am to Hometown Hero
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Nixon ended Kennedy and Johnson's war.
Where did I say he didn't? I said while running for president in 1968, he and his aides interfered with peace talks Johnson was involved in with the North Vietnamese. Many experts feel those talks were well on their way to de-escalating the conflict. Nixon was running on ending the conflict, and the conflict ending before the election would have likely ended his chances at winning. His interference led to the deaths of many more Americans. So yes, he stopped the bloodshed, but only after helping to extend the bloodshed so he could win an election. Real solid American.
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To call the Black Panthers anything other than a domestic terrorist organization
I've never denied they were a terrorist group, so not sure your point. I've also said twice now they had an ugly side to them. I don't think they were the threat to American peace(Hoover said they were the biggest threat to American peace at the time...while the Vietnam conflict was going on) they were portrayed to be by those that opposed them.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:44 am to The Spleen
HH has him an axe to grind, and he's gonna grind it no matter what, goddammit
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:51 am to TbirdSpur2010
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HH has him an axe to grind, and he's gonna grind it no matter what, goddammit
Calling a group of racist terrorists what they are is having an axe to grind?
I suppose PBS has an axe to grind by sugarcoating who and what the Panthers actually were.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:52 am to The Spleen
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Where did I say he didn't? I said while running for president in 1968, he and his aides interfered with peace talks Johnson was involved in with the North Vietnamese. Many experts feel those talks were well on their way to de-escalating the conflict. Nixon was running on ending the conflict, and the conflict ending before the election would have likely ended his chances at winning. His interference led to the deaths of many more Americans. So yes, he stopped the bloodshed, but only after helping to extend the bloodshed so he could win an election. Real solid American.
That is a bullshite leftist narrative that never happened.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:57 am to Hometown Hero
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That is a bullshite leftist narrative that never happened
I can't take anyone seriously that throws out phrases like "leftist narrative".
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:01 am to pvilleguru
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I can't take anyone seriously that throws out phrases like "leftist narrative".
Well, thank you for weighing in, Edward R. Murrow.
I'll lose sleep over losing your endorsement.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:47 am to Hometown Hero
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Calling a group of racist terrorists what they are is having an axe to grind?
No, it's the fact that you've outright refused to differentiate between two obviously different groups.
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I suppose PBS has an axe to grind by sugarcoating who and what the Panthers actually were.
They did gloss over the radical party that broke off and shared the same name, I agree. But that's been covered itt.
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