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Anyone Watch the Black Panthers Documentary On PBS Last Night?

Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:48 am
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:48 am
It was really well done with lots of storytelling from former members. Learned a lot from it, including what BS a lot of the narrative about the Black Panthers has been over the years. Also further illustrated what despicable human beings J Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon were.


Check it out if you get the chance. I think it's streaming on PBS's site now.
Posted by PrivatePublic
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 7:55 am to
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:40 am to
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Also further illustrated what despicable human beings J Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon were.

While I'm not sticking up for either one but a documentary about a black organization that puts 2 white guys in a bad light is supposed to be enlightening & non-biased? Really Spleen?
Posted by hogminer
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:43 am to
Yes. The Black Panthers were great.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:47 am to
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including what BS a lot of the narrative about the Black Panthers has been over the years


What BS narrative are you referring to by chance?

Or are you saying the new revisionist history narrative is more accurate than what actually happened in the eyes of those of us who lived through those years?

50 years of violent history ...

quote:

This week the Black Panthers are celebrating their 50th anniversary. (Check out their absurd, celebratory website. Talk about chutzpah.) This group is the epitome of it. “In your face, American Honkies. We got you.”
It’s been a long 50 years under the Panthers reign of terror in America. The Black Panthers’ 50 years has been marked by violence, murder, cop-killing, anti-Semitism, anti-White racism, pan-Islamism and a host of other things that are no good for any free and democratic society.

Several Black Panthers are now extremist Muslims and cause celebres in the Islamofascist community, like convicted, imprisoned cop-killer Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin a/k/a H. Rap Brown. Al-Amin, who bragged, “Violence is as American as cherry pie,” killed one sheriff’s deputy and wounded another in March 2000. The group–so vicious, so violent–even savagely tortured and murdered its own. The disgusting way they tortured and dismembered their living victims was so sick, it rivals that of the Islamic terrorists we are fighting now. Ungreat minds think alike.

So there’s really no reason whatsoever to celebrate that this group is still around. Yet, the Panther alums are not only celebrating. They’re expecting us to buy their extremist makeover. These murderous thugs now want you to believe they are “activists” and want you to see “a positive image.” They think donning fancy suits instead of berets and military garb will instantly erase our memory banks about their “activities.”

They’ve tried this before, with “Burn Baby Burn” Black Panther hot sauce. But the only thing that was burning is America under their reign of terror. You can’t remake years of murderous thuggery with a sudden Halloween costume of the Black Martha Stewart. They never apologized for murdering innocent people, leaving cops’ children fatherless, taking others’ lives for nothing.
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:58 am to
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Anyone Watch the Black Panthers Documentary On PBS Last Night?


Did you really just site the Obama government propaganda as your source as an objective perspective of the Black Panthers?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:05 am to
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a documentary about a black organization that puts 2 white guys in a bad light is supposed to be enlightening & non-biased?



Did you watch it? They also had former LA police that were involved in a shootout with Black Panther members on there. They admitted that Hoover and his FBI manipulated local police departments with anti-Black Panther propaganda.

But yes, the documentary was biased, and it glosses over some of the nefarious activities of the Black Panthers. It was still educational and informative and presented in an interesting way.
Posted by BobBarker
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:11 am to
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scrooster


I think you're getting the Panthers confused with the Black Liberation Army, a legitimate domestic terror organization made up of former Panthers that left the group because they weren't radical enough. They carried out bombings, murders, kidnappings, and robberies. They also believed the south should be set up as a black only country called New Afrika.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:27 am to
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I think you're getting the Panthers confused with the Black Liberation Army, a legitimate domestic terror organization made up of former Panthers that left the group because they weren't radical enough. They carried out bombings, murders, kidnappings, and robberies. They also believed the south should be set up as a black only country called New Afrika.


Ummmmm ... no. The Black Panthers were the Black Panthers. They were a terrorist organization and still are.

They were recently busted for plotting to blow up Ferguson: LINK



They are still involved in intimidation tactics ...





And their leader has said over and over again that he wants to kill all whites ... but he gets away with it.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:33 am to
To wit, this documentary only focused on the creation of the Black Panthers through the early 70's when there was an internal split because of friction between Huey Newton and Eldridge Cleaver. Most of the original Panther members left the party soon after that.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:53 am to
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Did you watch it?

No I didn't but if I see that's it's on I will.
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It was still educational and informative and presented in an interesting way.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:00 am to
The New Black Panthers are not the Black Panthers. TNBP are labeled a hate group by SLPC. The Black Panthers do not endorse them and reject their message: LINK
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:07 am to
The Black Panthers "reign of terror" ?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What a bunch of hyperbolic crap.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:37 am to
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Most of the original Panther members left the party soon after that.



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The Black Panthers do not endorse them and reject their message


How's that working out for this guy?



Posted by BarkRuffalo
Boston, MA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:59 am to
Not sure if I follow you. Are you saying that Nathan Bedford Forrest, a confederate general and possible grand wizard of the KKK, distanced himself from his role in the KKK after it was dissolved is analogous to the original Black Panthers who did not endorse violence because a new group calling themselves the New Black Panthers committed violence even though they themselves have no actual relationship to original BP?
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 12:00 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:28 pm to
Close.

If I follow the story right, those guys quit the group because they didn't endorse violence. The old group, fairly or not, is also associated with the new group in people's minds because they use the same name.

That's remarkably similar to Forrest's postwar path.
He was a founder of the KKK, didn't like what it became, tried to put the genie back in the bottle (like that would ever work), and later spoke for equality including the right to vote yet when you hear his name most people simply say "that's the guy that founded the KKK, screw him".

I find it interesting that one group of people are allowed credit for the disassociation they claim but Forrest is not.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:40 pm to
Did they go into what a stellar human being H.Rap Brown was and is?
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:46 pm to
Lemme guess, they're just misunderstood.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:21 pm to
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JustGetItRight

Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:09 pm to
I just watched it online. It's interesting because its some of the history that's not retold in schools or museums. Even if you don't agree with their methods, it was still an interesting documentary since I knew very little about the original Black Panther Party.

Having said that, the information about J. Edgar Hoover's tactics didn't surprise me. I know he did similar things to MLK, Cesar Chavez, and other civil rights organizers. Dude just hated minorities .
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