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re: Anyone ever realize this about Wisconsin (Wisconsin's shame)?

Posted on 4/21/15 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 3:34 pm to
Yes, this story has been widely reported in the MSM, though not nearly as sensationalized as the linked article. The details of it are pretty boring though without the sensationalism of the linked article, so it's easy to understand why you might have missed it.

I'm not saying that what is in the linked article is untrue. I really have no idea. But it has been reported in the MSM. I believe it was Newsweek or a Time that did a story on in a year or so ago.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 3:40 pm to
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If I wanted to see the start of another civil war, you cocksucker, I would start one. It damn sure wouldn't be hard with the country in the state of disarray it's in right now.


Delusions of grandeur are a sign of being a psychopath.
Posted by knight_ryder
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Member since Jan 2015
3356 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:35 pm to
Wow. Just Wow.

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One of the officers planted marijuana in Johnston's house after the shooting.[7][8] Later investigations found that the paperwork stating that drugs present at Johnston's house, which had been the basis for the raid, had been falsified.[3] The officers later admitted to having lied when they submitted cocaine as evidence claiming that they had bought it at Johnston's house.[7] Three officers were tried for manslaughter and other charges surrounding falsification and were sentenced to ten, six, and five years.


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Prosecutors later said that Smith handcuffed Johnston as she was dying.[15] Johnston was pronounced dead at the scene.


These "no knock" laws are just idiotic.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:42 pm to
Wisconsin is a great state.

Can't say that enough.

You, and all people who are caught up in the surface level political game are destroying any hope of fixing this country (and world).

Don't bother responding, unless you feel like talking to yourself is necessary.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28859 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:49 pm to
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Wisconsin is a great state. Can't say that enough. You, and all people who are caught up in the surface level political game are destroying any hope of fixing this country (and world). .


So...you're cool with the actions of the police and courts here?
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 6:53 pm to
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So...you're cool with the actions of the police and courts here?


No. Not at all.

I'm uncool with people who don't get it, like Scrooster, and most.

He's ranting about lefties, and Obama ect -- he, like most, are caught up in the marketed version of the two political parties.

Our freedoms aren't eroding because of democrats. They're eroding because of powerful people who want more control of everything -- they have no real political team.

These people play on the branding of the two parties and divide the nation -- divide and conquer.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 7:00 pm to
I hear you on that and agree.

To act like either side is above these sort of actions is ignorant, at best. Lack of term limits and lifelong judge appointments make us a very corruptible nation unfortunately. I'd argue unions and lobbyists as well.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 7:24 pm to
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Lack of term limits and lifelong judge appointments make us a very corruptible nation unfortunately. I'd argue unions and lobbyists as well.



It's mind numbing that these issues aren't at the forefront of so many people's complaints.

Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28859 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 7:47 pm to
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It's mind numbing that these issues aren't at the forefront of so many people's complaints.


You can't be serious. Gays are being denied cakes. Cakes dammit.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 7:48 pm to
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You can't be serious. Gays are being denied cakes. Cakes dammit.


Laughed out loud.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 8:15 pm to
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These people play on the branding of the two parties and divide the nation -- divide and conquer.

The parties do that very well themselves, without big money help.
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
1226 posts
Posted on 4/21/15 at 8:31 pm to
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The parties do that very well themselves, without big money help.



I'd say you don't get it. But I don't tell people that.


Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:18 pm to
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Our freedoms aren't eroding because of democrats. They're eroding because of powerful people who want more control of everything -- they have no real political team.

These people play on the branding of the two parties and divide the nation -- divide and conquer.


This is the damn truth.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 12:37 pm to
The trick shouldn't have screwed over the Firemen, Police, and Teachers by authoring a bill taking their earned benefits...screw her.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37612 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Wisconsin is a great state.

Can't say that enough.

You, and all people who are caught up in the surface level political game are destroying any hope of fixing this country (and world).

Don't bother responding, unless you feel like talking to yourself is necessary.


Wisconsin blows donkey dicks. It doesn't get the (negative) credit it deserves for being a bastion of socialist progressive communism.

Can't say that enough. (Although I do like cheese, the deer hunting up there and The Packers.)

You, and all people who speak in absolutes caught-up in labeling those of us who are just as fricking pissed off at both sides ... and have been probably long before you were born, can go eat a bag of dicks. This country is unfixable ... as is the world. Why? Because the fricking socialist progressives, like the fricks up in Wisconsin, used our laws against us to transform us fundamentally to what we are today ... a once proud and powerful country built on exceptionalism, to a dying country ... and yeasty cheesy vagina of a country who has opened its labia and had more tainted-jizz pumped-in than even Kim Kardasian's va jay jay ... pun intended.

Don't bother reading this ... you're part of the problem and the problem is incurable.



Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:10 pm to
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This is the damn truth.


No it's not ... but it is what the far lefties would have us all believe.

It's the same argument that's been debated for over 100 years .... and the social progressives (sic: communists and socialists) have been demonizing the wealthy for at least that long if not longer.

Y'all go do your homework ... read a little bit about how Teddy Roosevelt came to power. Read about the evil railroad and land barons of the day ... read about how Roosevelt played the same card so many dumbasses are playing today.

Read Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" .... the playbook of the leftwing nuts, it's the Bible of Obama ... and please, please, don't claim both sides are the same. That's just an incredibly ignorant bunch of bullshite.

Yes, both sides suffer from the same hypocrisy ... their complicit mendacity in their war for power and yes, in doing so they are destroying this country beyond repair ... but they are not the same, not even close.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:12 pm to
Just curious, at what point was the United States so exceptional? To the point that it changed?
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37612 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:20 pm to
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Just curious, at what point was the United States so exceptional? To the point that it changed?


Good question .... I think.

Are you asking about a specific era in our history where we excelled and flourished in a capitalistic system which encouraged hard work and exceptionalism rather than paying people to breed and thus overload the system so as to realize a fundamental transformational shift in the socio-economic-political philosophy of this country?

Or are you asking at exactly what point did it change and cease to exist as our Founding Fathers intended?
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 1:37 pm to
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Are you asking about a specific era in our history where we excelled and flourished in a capitalistic system which encouraged hard work and exceptionalism rather than paying people to breed and thus overload the system so as to realize a fundamental transformational shift in the socio-economic-political philosophy of this country?


anything really. Some people (you) say that we aren't what we once were. This happens all the time in everything. "things were just better back in the day," but no one ever says what was good about it, or what was bad about it. Outside of the 1992 Dream Team, has anyone ever said, "man, this is the best it has ever been." People are nostalgic.

This whole "America is awesome" exceptionalism is a dumb philosophy. It doesn't allow you to learn and correct your mistakes, while further closing the mind to outside ideas.

So yes, when was it SO GREAT before that we cant duplicate now?
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15300 posts
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:09 pm to
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This whole "America is awesome" exceptionalism is a dumb philosophy. It doesn't allow you to learn and correct your mistakes, and further closes the mind to outside ideas.



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