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re: Alabama Possibly Eliminates Marriage Licenses
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:21 pm to Weagle25
Posted on 3/10/17 at 1:21 pm to Weagle25
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Would you be in favor of government eliminating all of the current benefits that married couples have?
Yes. There should be no reason the government treats married people differently than single people.
So, if a man gets killed in a car accident caused by someone else, his widow should not be able to sue for his wrongful death?
If a man is in the hospital, his wife should not be allowed to visit him?
If a man dies and leaves all his money to his wife, she should pay the same inheritance taxes that any random person would?
If a man dies without a will, his wife should inherit nothing?
A wife who devotes herself to homemaking while her husband is the only breadwinner shouldn't be able to collect on his social security benefits if he dies?
There are a lot of benefits the government gives to married couples that would really be a pain in the arse to get rid of.
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Posted on 3/11/17 at 7:56 am to Glorious
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Thank god. This will surely help our poor education system and infrastructure
+1
Posted on 3/11/17 at 6:01 pm to Nuts4LSU
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So, if a man gets killed in a car accident caused by someone else, his widow should not be able to sue for his wrongful death?
Whoever is in charge of the estate should be able to
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If a man is in the hospital, his wife should not be allowed to visit him?
Are you saying they don't allow single people to have visitors in the hospital...?
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a man dies and leaves all his money to his wife, she should pay the same inheritance taxes that any random person would?
There shouldn't be an inheritance tax
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If a man dies without a will, his wife should inherit nothing?
He shouldn't die without a will. Or he should set things up where they each own a portion of everything.
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wife who devotes herself to homemaking while her husband is the only breadwinner shouldn't be able to collect on his social security benefits if he dies?
Social Security shouldn't exist
This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 4:53 pm to Weagle25
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So, if a man gets killed in a car accident caused by someone else, his widow should not be able to sue for his wrongful death?
Whoever is in charge of the estate should be able to
That's not the action I'm talking about. I'm talking about HER cause of action for the damages SHE suffers from losing her husband, not the survival action that someone can bring on his behalf for the damages he suffers in being killed.
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If a man is in the hospital, his wife should not be allowed to visit him?
Are you saying they don't allow single people to have visitors in the hospital...?
In some hospitals, only family are allowed to visit patients in certain areas. Not recognizing marriage would mean his wife is not family.
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a man dies and leaves all his money to his wife, she should pay the same inheritance taxes that any random person would?
There shouldn't be an inheritance tax
But given that there is, should it be the same for a surviving spouse as it would be for a random stranger?
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If a man dies without a will, his wife should inherit nothing?
He shouldn't die without a will. Or he should set things up where they each own a portion of everything.
We've got a whole boatload of laws to handle situations where people don't do what they "should" do. One of many things people "should" do but don't is make a will. In the absence of a will, should the widow be left with nothing?
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wife who devotes herself to homemaking while her husband is the only breadwinner shouldn't be able to collect on his social security benefits if he dies?
Social Security shouldn't exist
Interesting take, but totally irrelevant. It does exist and the question here is whether a surviving spouse should be able to collect on the deceased spouse's benefits.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 9:31 pm to Nuts4LSU
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That's not the action I'm talking about. I'm talking about HER cause of action for the damages SHE suffers from losing her husband, not the survival action that someone can bring on his behalf for the damages he suffers in being killed.
Let the court determine whether she suffered damages. If she can prove she did, then why not?
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In some hospitals, only family are allowed to visit patients in certain areas. Not recognizing marriage would mean his wife is not family.
Not exactly a law though which is what we're talking about.
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We've got a whole boatload of laws to handle situations where people don't do what they "should" do
We shouldn't though. Do what you're supposed to do or suffer the consequences.
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In the absence of a will, should the widow be left with nothing?
If they didn't take the correct actions then yeah. You knew or should've known the rules.
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Interesting take, but totally irrelevant. It does exist
We're in a hypothetical situation, why can't I repeal the inheritance tax and social security at the same time I do away with marriage? If I do away with marriage at the government level, obviously some other things would have to be changed at the same time.
Your Social security question is irrelevant in my proposal because it shouldn't exist whether we have marriage or not. Your inheritance tax question is irrrelvant because that shouldn't exist whether marriage is a thing or not. The money has already been taxed. Why are we taxing it twice? Hospitals restrict visitors but that's more policy than law. And hospitals can decide who they let in and who they don't so that's not even in this conversation.
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the question here is whether a surviving spouse should be able to collect on the deceased spouse's benefits.
Also, no. They aren't her benefits.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:07 pm to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 3/20/17 at 4:26 pm to Aubie Spr96
Defend marriage from the government
Government should have nothing to do with marriage
Government should have nothing to do with marriage
Posted on 3/20/17 at 4:28 pm to madmaxvol
This is correct.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 10:15 am to Weagle25
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Social Security shouldn't exist
Good luck with that dumbass, especially after most Americans have spent their life paying into it.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 6:17 pm to HTDawg
If everyone were to just work and save and invest like a responsible American citizen social security wouldn't be needed. But when it comes right down to it, it's really all about where you're drawing the line as far as towing dead weight goes. How much are you willing to take before you yank your vote?
That said, I think it benefits society as a whole when the strong carry the weakest because sometimes people get hurt and can't work or they get in an accident and require medical care. It's not a bad thing to reasonably tax the rich because just as some poor people are poor because they're unlucky or lazy there are also plenty of stingy multimillionaires that would never give a cent otherwise for the betterment of their city, county, state, and country.
That said, I think it benefits society as a whole when the strong carry the weakest because sometimes people get hurt and can't work or they get in an accident and require medical care. It's not a bad thing to reasonably tax the rich because just as some poor people are poor because they're unlucky or lazy there are also plenty of stingy multimillionaires that would never give a cent otherwise for the betterment of their city, county, state, and country.
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