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re: 5 worst states to get busted for pot
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:46 pm to 3nOut
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:46 pm to 3nOut
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All I get from this thread is a bunch of people bitching about other people knowingly breaking the law.
Weird all I get is people don't like a war declared on them by their own government... and we're paying out the arse to fund it.
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:48 pm to samson'sseed
All I want to do when I'm older after a long day of work come him to a half eighth and a pack of white owl blues (highly recommend).
Posted on 7/10/14 at 11:15 pm to samson'sseed
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In Arizona it's the only state where a first time offense of less than an ounce is a felony.
Holy shite. In Alabama, you go 15 days into a rehab and do a couple months of classes. Stay clean for 3 months, it's dismissed.
Arizona is a stupid state.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 7:53 am to 3nOut
How about when you get caught going 5 mph over the speed limit, the police get to whip the skin off your back?
No reason to bitch. You were breaking the law.
No reason to bitch. You were breaking the law.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:00 am to roadGator
road, tt9 will never make enough to be taxed very heavily.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:02 am to wadewilson
quote:for every bit of progress we make with discussing getting rid of mandatory mins and even possible medical weed some backwoods arse frick of a politician from north la comes in and shits on it with his snake type church, and then all the baptist get going and next thing you know a good bill is gone.
I can't speak for Texas, but here, DA's like the mandatory minimums on weed because it gives them another 20 years to hang over a perp's head to manipulate him, and Sheriffs love them because they get paid for each state prisoner they hold in their parish jails.
In this recent legislative session, there was some willingness to reexamine mandatory minimums for marijuana, but we'll see if it ever takes hol
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:10 am to samson'sseed
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How about when you get caught going 5 mph over the speed limit, the police get to whip the skin off your back? No reason to bitch. You were breaking the law.
In the US our only corporal punishment is the death penalty. Your argument is foolish and unfounded.
But please, continue to break the law and expect a different outcome.
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 8:13 am
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:22 am to 3nOut
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All I get from this thread is a bunch of people bitching about other people knowingly breaking the law.
I get that the punishment is harsher than it should be, but there are a lot of things I want to do against the law but, for some reason the threat of jail and fines seem to win out. Seems stupid to get so upset for a bunch of people that make the opposite decision.
I get that pot isn't that bad, but neither is going 65 in a 60. You're still breaking the law. And shouldn't complain when you get punished.
Unjust laws don't deserve to be followed.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:24 am to DCRebel
quote:some people like to be good little bootlickers. They assume some corrupt politician knows what is best for them even if the law is insanely stupid. They just lick away, the same type that believe cops are there to serve and protect and should never be questioned.
Unjust laws don't deserve to be followed.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:24 am to 3nOut
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But please, continue to break the law and expect a different outcome.
I think he is making the point that the punishment doesn't fit the crime. And before you say, "so what?", it is a detriment to the prison system in the state. We WASTE money because of this. The only victim isn't the perpetrator. I don't even smoke weed, and I am paying for it.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:26 am to 3nOut
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All I get from this thread is a bunch of people bitching about other people knowingly breaking the law.
You realize you'd be on the side of redcoats if I were to extrapolate...A bunch of people getting upset that Brits are killing our revolutionaries, but they were breaking the law!
Unjust laws deserve to be bitched about. We pay to enforce them. Colorado is a great example into how we can save money fighting something that God created (if you're a Christian). Saving millions of dollars fighting an un-winnable war and instead can focus resources on tougher crimes and teachers end up getting paid more, too.
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I get that the punishment is harsher than it should be, but there are a lot of things I want to do against the law but, for some reason the threat of jail and fines seem to win out. Seems stupid to get so upset for a bunch of people that make the opposite decision.
40 years of failed drug wars has taught us that "illicit" drugs have inelastic demand. You can threaten people with prison and they're STILL going to do drugs. That's about as clear-cut as you can possibly be in terms of effecting change. You can't do it with threat of force/prison. It doesn't work.
Justice should be equitable. Being arrested for 180 days just for possessing marijuana, or even longer in some cases, is ridiculous when we have people on the streets getting DUI's left & right, which ACTUALLY puts people at risk.
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I get that pot isn't that bad, but neither is going 65 in a 60. You're still breaking the law. And shouldn't complain when you get punished.
Your analogy is retarded because you don't go to jail for going 5 miles over the speed limit. You'd have to be recklessly driving and destroy property before you'd ever get anything close to 180 days in jail. Hell, if it's your first offense you could do all of this while drunk and still probably be out in less than 180 days.
But it's our duty as citizens to speak up when laws aren't just. That's the whole point of democracy. We get to decide what's lawful. Us being outraged at different, draconian punishments for pot is just citizens pointing out an injustice. The more people that realize how absurd the war on drugs is, the quicker we'll be able to put it behind us, bring in more revenue, and solve/prevent real crimes.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:34 am to GoBigOrange86
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GoBigOrange86
I am waiting to hear how the person "Injected FOUR MJ".
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I once knew a guy who injected FOUR marijuanas and then went on a rampage that left six toddlers crippled.
I would also like a link to the story of the crippled 6 toddlers
C'mon I am waiting
This post was edited on 7/11/14 at 8:36 am
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:35 am to Mulat
It's a joke, dude.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:38 am to ocelot4ark
I'm not saying the law is right or wrong here.
I don't smoke weed and most likely never will. I don't hold it against any of y'all that are for it. I hope it becomes legalized or decriminalized at a minimum.
But it's not like this is freaking slavery where it's a crime against humanity and it's always been that way so we should keep going.
I don't smoke weed and most likely never will. I don't hold it against any of y'all that are for it. I hope it becomes legalized or decriminalized at a minimum.
But it's not like this is freaking slavery where it's a crime against humanity and it's always been that way so we should keep going.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:38 am to ocelot4ark
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It's a joke, dude.
You think so, I doubt it, there are a lot of misinformed Experts about MJ, they drank the kool-aid and continue to refresh their cup
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:43 am to TeLeFaWx
your money goes to the big prison business because of insane harsh punishment.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:45 am to 3nOut
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t's not like this is freaking slavery where it's a crime against humanity
Facts simply are if you have chronic pain such as in MS, Fibromyalgia, nausea from cancer, pain from chemo, just to name a few health issues, this medication is not available in all states.
Just as Advil works for me and Aleve is like drinking a glass of water, no help - there are people that the MJ actually helps and good physicians would like to prescribe but they cannot, nor is there other medications that are available that are helpful to the patient.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:49 am to Mulat
christians hate those with cancer. They want them to suffer instead of using a drug.
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:52 am to heartbreakTiger
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christians hate those with cancer. They want them to suffer instead of using a drug.
No No, you got that wrong, it is penance for all their sins, good for them - it is a benefit of illness
Posted on 7/11/14 at 8:54 am to 3nOut
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But it's not like this is freaking slavery where it's a crime against humanity and it's always been that way so we should keep going.
Maybe not slavery, but it is draconian to put people in jail for that long for something so harmless. 180 days in jail will ruin your life. Good luck getting a job. So now, for no good reason, a tax paying citizen with a good job and no violent past is forever ostracized from the work force. He'll make less. His family will suffer. The government will earn less revenue off of him. Etc, etc.
Sure - abstinence from pot would have prevented that. It just shouldn't be that harsh to begin with.
Could you imagine the outrage if the mandatory minimum sentence for something like rolling through a stop sign was 180 days in jail?
If it's going to be illegal, it should be treated MUCH more like a traffic stop. Fortunately, many states/municipalities are like that or getting there. It's actually pretty freakin' awesome to see how citizens are forcing their governments to step outside of the status quo and think about the issue instead of just going along with what Nancy Reagan or Richard Nixon thought.
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