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People who are blaming the staff

Posted on 9/18/16 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 6:12 pm
should wise up.

The staff is the reason we were in position to win.

The staff gets an A+ for what they've done to this point.

They acquired a high end LT, WR, RB, and another WR for depth through free agency. And they brought in a decent recruiting class amid the perfect storm that would destroy even elite football schools.

The staff is a godsend. Odom and who he's attracted is an actual blessing from the heavens.

If Lock didn't make that throw on third and five in field goal range, and if that guy didn't make an unreal interception on it -- we make it a 2 score game there and people would be sucking the staff's nuts today over how well they prepared the team and how smart it was to slow it down.

The staff deserves no criticism for that game.

Fumbles and picks would be a good place to point a finger.

This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 6:40 pm
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 6:35 pm to
The only criticism I have of the staff is they haven't emphasized or taught ball security.

So many silly stupid turnovers that game, and Mizzou was lucky to get away with so many and still have a great chance to win.
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

The only criticism I have of the staff is they haven't emphasized or taught ball security.


And you know this how?

I'm sure ball security is routinely emphasized.

This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 6:40 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 6:52 pm to
quote:


The staff deserves no criticism for that game.




Please....

I like BO and think he put together a solid staff, but they certainly share some blame for Saturday. Some mind numbing poor decisions, in the 4th quarter in particular, really hurt us.
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
4683 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 7:08 pm to
I'm usually the last one to criticize coaches but they deserve their share of the blame.

Played not to lose in the 4th quarter instead of stepping on their throat.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

The staff is the reason we were in position to win.
this is true

quote:

I'm usually the last one to criticize coaches but they deserve their share of the blame. Played not to lose in the 4th quarter instead of stepping on their throat.
this is also true
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 7:47 pm to
quote:


I like BO and think he put together a solid staff, but they certainly share some blame for Saturday. Some mind numbing poor decisions, in the 4th quarter in particular, really hurt us.



Under a different set of circumstances a coaching staff could be criticized for pulling up on the play calling too soon in the 4th.

Sadly the ability to have multiple bits of data and thoughts interact with each other resulting in a critically thought out feeling is rare -- which I think is needed here.


Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

I'm usually the last one to criticize coaches but they deserve their share of the blame. Played not to lose in the 4th quarter instead of stepping on their throat.
this is also true



If we're playing the game of truth, here's another sentence that could be called true -- If we had won people would be lauded over the incredible job and the slow down in the 4th would have been praised.

They didn't play not to lose.

They played to win.

The play calling got us in position to take a 2 score lead. Lock made a poor throw and the defender made an outstanding play to pick it. We get 3 points there and people are 100% all over the staff's nuts today.

It wasn't perfect. But when you weigh it with all they did to create the team they did it's weird to criticize them the way people have.
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6734 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 8:10 pm to
You act like this is personal. These are observations. The staff is new, the HC is in his first year. Mistakes were made. These must be analyzed and corrected, as I'm sure they will. And folks get to enjoy talking about it.

Surely a supreme Being has far more weighty matters to concern himself with . . .
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 8:11 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 8:12 pm to
I don't think anyone is blasting the staff, but it's both fair and accurate to point out that they made some really costly mistakes.

You've mentioned the last interception a couple of times. That ball should have never went in the air in that situation. You were well within field goal range and 3 would have made it a two possession game that we likely win. You've matched the ball down the field exclusively on the ground and your QB was struggling in the second half. That decision just makes no sense on a myriad of different levels.
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 8:15 pm to
Not really here.

On tb more.

I was testing you all.

You passed, jesus. That ball should have never been in the air there. That was the game.

I show now my ability to accept when I'm wrong.

The staff deserves criticism.

Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 8:27 pm to
Supreme. Staff is part of the team. Win and lose as a team. One of the responsibilities is to prepare the team to play. Obviously, they did a good job of that in the first half. Not so much in the second. Yep, way too many turnovers. In my mind, turnovers are a lack of execution. That's squarely on the players. But.....The lack luster play calling and mental errors that involve the staff also were a problem especially when the defense was having a hard time getting off the field. Blitzing on the last play was also called by the coaching staff. Probably would have been better off playing a straight up defense and turn the big men loose. Mizzou seems to have a hard time blitzing. So in part I agree but there was plenty of fault to share from players not executing and staff not preparing and executing a game plan all the way through 4 quarters. You can throw lack of adjustments in there also.

But the same can be said of the later. Both players and staff had success also. They just happened to lose the game......as a team.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 8:37 pm to
I thought it was a solid play call but a poor read by Lock. UGA had shifted to Robber in the second half and it resulted in the prior INTs. He had the safety moving at Moore immediately after the snap. He pumps to Moore and knifes one at the left up right he would have found Blanton behind his man UGA is starting the buses.

Instead, the young QB makes a bad throw and we all have sad faces.

Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5361 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 8:47 pm to
Sit Moore for that play and Lock checks down to the TE. He got locked onto Moore again late in the 4th.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 8:56 pm to
Maybe, or UGA checks out of robber back to Cover 3 and Lock takes a coverage sack moving them out of FG range.

Tough pill to swallow but he isn't the first young QB make that throw and he won't be the last.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 9:39 pm to
It's not that the particular play call was poor. It's the decision to throw at all.

Should have played that conservatively given field position, score, time remaining and flow of the game. Get 3 points there and our win probability jumps up to 98% . 3 points there is very close to being as good as 7.

Earlier in the game and I wouldn't have minded it, but it was entirely too risky given the situation and we got burned.
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 9:47 pm to
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Obviously, they did a good job of that in the first half. Not so much in the second.


They didn't give up points until under 2 minutes to go in the second half, but they didn't prepare them for the half?

Posted by IlliniBuck
Member since Apr 2015
189 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 9:49 pm to
The slowdown of tempo and the decision to play not to lose may have been the result of the interceptions.

Coach Heupel may have decided whatever was causing Drew to throw into double coverage could not be fixed with sideline real time coaching. He needed him back on campus after the game to fix it.

Not to mention Coach Odom was probably talking to Josh over the headset saying " any more interceptions will lose this game for us".

It almost worked out.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

If we're playing the game of truth, here's another sentence that could be called true -- If we had won people would be lauded over the incredible job and the slow down in the 4th would have been praised.
not by the people I was with. To a man we said they need to keep playing offense or they are going to lose (this was well b4 we lost). If we had won we would have felt they were fortunate, not that they did the correct thing

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Coach Heupel may have decided whatever was causing Drew to throw into double coverage could not be fixed with sideline real time coaching. He needed him back on campus after the game to fix it.
Possible. This team showed some serious potential. If errbody learns and we play cleaner games going forward it's all good
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 9:53 pm
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 9:57 pm to
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And you know this how? I'm sure ball security is routinely emphasized.


Did you watch the game? Did you think they did a good job protecting the ball? Whatever they're doing in that area isn't working.
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