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Pat Ivey- New Assistant Vice Chancellor

Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:45 pm
Posted by JAGsports
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:45 pm
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Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:26 pm to
Wow. Just...wow. WTF? That's going to piss some people off, I bet. If the rumors were true.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15519 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 6:39 pm to
I bet it was a University attempt to cover their arse from any wrongful termination lawsuit.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:10 pm to
all da white people here about to lose their shite. and as soon as someone spots it it will hit the main board. Good times, good times
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 7:11 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:32 pm to
Sad when the AD has a better handle on how to conduct affairs than the University system.

$150k is probably what they would've ended up paying him after the lawsuit.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 7:37 pm to
He wouldn't have any basis for a wrongful termination suit though, would he? Missouri is an at will state, and there was no requirement to retain him by Odom. So unless it was directly related and he can prove it, where is the case?

This was a Middleton appointment, correct?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:00 pm to
Whether there's any basis or not, we'd end up paying something for him to go away. This is probably a courtesy appointment and a favor for his wife and repaying him for standing up for the cause. That's my opinion.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5368 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:00 pm to
Everyone assumes he had something to do with the so called strike. But word around the campfire was that this isn't true. He was questioned about being too close to players, providing meals at his house a so on. Could be a problem for Odom if an NCAA investigation ensued.

This is why he and his wife left quietly. Also makes sense he would return to this position. He loves the school and program. It is assumed he collaborated with black players because he is black and no other reason. No one assumes the same about Kul, and his dismissal was much more surprising.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 8:04 pm to
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It is assumed he collaborated with black players because he is black and no other reason.


No.

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A decision was reached on Saturday, and according to the Missourian, the strength and conditioning coach, Pat Ivey, delivered the message to the protesters, along with former player Sean Coffey.


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Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:18 pm to
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Sean Coffey.

And he has no axe to grind... He's hated Mizzou since he was a player. What is he even doing around the university or the program?!?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

He wouldn't have any basis for a wrongful termination suit though, would he? Missouri is an at will state, and there was no requirement to retain him by Odom. So unless it was directly related and he can prove it, where is the case?



At will meaning you can fire someone for any reason as long as it's not a bad reason. Him being black. Him supporting a black protest and getting fired because of it. Yeah, there might be a problem there, if not from a legal point of view because those cases are tough to make but from a PR point a view.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5368 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 9:56 pm to
That by no way means he collaborated with them. Think about it in a logical way. Turning their backs on the players kills the football program. You could NEVER recruit black players if you shut them down. You have no chance in hell of convincing a black mom to trust Mizzou with her son if you don't stand beside them during this crisis.

Those who think a black coach who forged tight personal relationships beyond the football field with the players and then should have stayed silent are just not being sensible. How do you go back and rekindle those relationships?
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 9:57 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:05 pm to
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That by no way means he collaborated with them.

You originally said that it was completely based on his skin color. That was demonstrably false. He was involved in some way with the football team's communication with the protesters.

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Think about it in a logical way. Turning their backs on the players kills the football program. You could NEVER recruit black players if you shut them down. You have no chance in hell of convincing a black mom to trust Mizzou with her son if you don't stand beside them during this crisis.

Your definition and mine of "crisis" are different. And while I understand your point of view here, it has nothing to do with whether or not Ivey was involved in the protest.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:27 pm to
We really don't know what his involvement was
as usual

We think we know exactly what his involvement was
as usual
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 2/23/16 at 10:50 pm to
Yes. Newspapers make shite up. I agree.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 6:34 am to
I not only disagree, this makes me sad for humanity. Caving to the voices of a few and allowing them to dictate policy was a huge mistake.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:58 am to
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:28 am to
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This was a Middleton appointment, correct?


Yes. He is going out of his way to do these things. He and Foley are butting heads now.

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wrongful termination


Not in athletics really. A simple "difference in attitude" is enough to justify. I'm not completely versed, but pretty sure athletics has different termination policies, since it happens ALL THE TIME

This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 9:33 am
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:33 am to
Read his full title and try not to gag. Inmates (administers) are running the asylum.

That's taxpayer money and as a righty, we hate waste.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:54 am to
NVM
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 10:56 am
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