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re: Mo Leg committee questions Foley and Middleton

Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Stlox
Maryland Heights, MO
Member since Jul 2013
795 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 10:00 am to
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Man who elected those guys? Why do we have bozos running out state?


Yes, spot on. This is where we need to start. Total Accountability.

I'm not advocating a witch hunt, just uncovering the facts, and learning from our mistakes so this doesn't happen again.

From what I understand, the governor appoints with advice/consent of legislature (like US SC).

BOC hires System Prez, Chancellors. These guys are given contracts, not like regular employees of companies.

How BOC members can be removed, I'm not sure. But the System Prez and Chancellors cannot be fired, just bought out, not renewed, or reassigned.

First of all, I think it was a mistake hiring a Sys Prez with absolutely no Academia experience, apparently thinking he could run it like a business. I heard he wanted to fire Loftin but couldn't. He found out the hard way, underlings don't fall on their swords, or easily fired, at least not here.

Loftin was the next big mistake. All PR, bonehead and abrasive decisions, when he got around to making them. Deflected everything up to Wolfe, AND WE STILL CAN'T GET RID OF HIM. Still on contract, working on research.

Third is the BOC. I don't think they were as engaged as to what was going on, and they are in charge of the school systems admin, only figuring things out afterwards.

I think the legislature is in too much of a witch hunt mode and needs to step back and take a little accountability. They and the governor start this infrastructure process with the BOC.

The emphasis should be on getting our school system back in better than working order.


Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:14 am to
StLox quote: "Yes, spot on. This is where we need to start. Total Accountability. I'm not advocating a witch hunt, just uncovering the facts, and learning from our mistakes so this doesn't happen again."

I agree with most of your points in general. We all need to learn. It always starts at the top, IMHO. Remember, we the people elected Gov. Nixon. We deserve the government that we elect. ie. How he "protected" Ferguson. How he integrated the Water Patrol into the HWP. How he handled the B1G flirtation. How he can't talk off script...and he's a Mizzou grad!

Regarding the advice/consent of legislature, I'm not so sure that is how it works? Anybody know for sure? I thought the Gov appoints the BOC and that's it. Of course, I could be wrong. The BOC is a major problem currently. There are three current openings. More ineptness coming?

Another problem is that the legislature is "very righty" and the university is "very lefty". That is naturally going to breed differences of opinion.

Yes, it sounds like Loftin was the fuel added to the fire. He was the real target of the protest/boycott from day-one. And they got him.

Wasn't Wolfe (business background) hired to keep an eye on the System's finances? He was not there to agree with the lefty Deans and admin. As a state taxpayer, I like the checks and balances. Gridlock can be good. Yes, Wolfe blew it with the protest and had to go. Wolfe was a bonus kill to the protesters.

Multi-level poor leadership is the bottom line. The protesters could smell the weakness and where embolden by Ferguson events. Then they confirmed the weakness with the Homecoming parade challenge to Wolfe. Then they instituted the boycott plan. Players joined and checkmate. A very pure power-play if there ever was one.

Will strong and effective leadership be appointed to oversee our beloved Mizzou???
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5893 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:16 am to
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Will strong and effective leadership be appointed to oversee our beloved Mizzou???



One can only hope. It is getting to the point where it is sad.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 2/22/16 at 11:18 am to
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It is getting to the point where it is sad.


Sorry, but it is already past that point.
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