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Mizzou in danger of losing AAU status?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:35 am
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:35 am
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I don't know that there was really a good way to handle the football protest, but the aftermath continues to be potentially devastating. The damage done has the potential to stretch far beyond the football field.
Decrease in enrollment, donations and now this.
If you truly care about the University then now would be a good time to up your donation.
I don't know that there was really a good way to handle the football protest, but the aftermath continues to be potentially devastating. The damage done has the potential to stretch far beyond the football field.
Decrease in enrollment, donations and now this.
If you truly care about the University then now would be a good time to up your donation.
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:51 am to JesusQuintana
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If you truly care about the University then now would be a good time to up your donation.
Not to athletics.
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I don't know that there was really a good way to handle the football protest, but the aftermath continues to be potentially devastating. The damage done has the potential to stretch far beyond the football field.
and people still want to downplay it.
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Mizzou in danger of losing AAU status?
Meh. They aren't going to lose it over one year, but the job Loftin did sure put us in trouble. Disregarding the protest, Loftin royally screwed us. Foley has and will put us back on track, especially in regards to the AAU.
Have to limit the damage this year with the hiring freezes and cuts.
Best thing to do that would be by winning in football. Pressure couldn't be higher for Odom to win. It is proven that athletic success can drive university success.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:12 am to 5thTiger
It's a very real danger...we are at or near the bottom of most of the metrics the AAU uses to measure its members (mostly research dollars and NAS members), and there are many institutions outside the AAU that would currently rank higher than MU in a lot of those metrics, and most all of them want in.
There is basically one easy way to improve those metrics, and that is to spend a crapload of money to build new facilities and attract high-end faculty who do a lot of research. Spending a crapload of money is going to be awfully tough to do right now.
There is basically one easy way to improve those metrics, and that is to spend a crapload of money to build new facilities and attract high-end faculty who do a lot of research. Spending a crapload of money is going to be awfully tough to do right now.
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Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:34 am to NEMizzou
There are always consequences for your choices. Mizzou made poor choices. This won't go away in 1 year. Many families will never send their kids there now. Mizzou is a tire fire and it will take many years to overcome. And I'm not even talking athletics.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:47 pm to 5thTiger
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Meh. They aren't going to lose it over one year,
Did Nebraska lose it in one year. Or is it rumors that they lost it a year or two after they joined the B1G. Didn't know if it was a long process.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:00 pm to bayou2003
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Did Nebraska lose it in one year.
No, that was about a decade in the making. It almost happened about 5 years prior.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:08 pm to 5thTiger
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No, that was about a decade in the making. It almost happened about 5 years prior.
Ok because I can remember people saying they lost it when they jumped to the B1G. Didn't think changing a conference can make you lose it. Plus B1G have a lot of AAU schools.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 2:44 pm to bayou2003
From Matters chat today about enrollment
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Projections for next year's enrollment are down 5 percent from the current freshman class - but still higher than the 2013-14 school year
Posted on 3/17/16 at 3:35 pm to Rubicon
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Mizzou is a tire fire and it will take many years to overcome
This
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:03 pm to 5thTiger
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I don't know that there was really a good way to handle the football protest, but the aftermath continues to be potentially devastating. The damage done has the potential to stretch far beyond the football field.
and people still want to downplay it.
It is the reaction to and the politicizing of the protest that is damaging the school. Words that college kids yell and post to twitter are incapable of causing actual damage. How people respond to those words are the source of actual damage.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 4:52 pm to Tigersessed
Actually the football protest is the whole deal.
No one would give a frick otherwise
No one would give a frick otherwise
Posted on 3/17/16 at 7:49 pm to JesusQuintana
The football team got the biggest reaction, but how many media stories did they personally write? Did they vote on the state budget? Did players intercept applications reducing the quantity? Did they block people from enrolling, buying tickets, or making donations? People can rationalize their actions however they want, but they are responsible for them.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:36 pm to JesusQuintana
100% it was the football players that shed light. There are protestors every semester all around the country. It was the football team that didn't just turn the national light on, but it built the stage. If they don't threaten to strike the story is, "Multi-millionaire who has studies activism choosing not to eat for 10% of the time it takes to become dangerous because he wants to jumpstart his career of b*^%#ing about something. AKA something that would blow over on Midwest local news in 2 days.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 1:02 am to BurgTiger
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100% it was the football players that shed light. There are protestors every semester all around the country. It was the football team that didn't just turn the national light on, but it built the stage.
I'm not following what you are trying to say. Because they are football players, they should not be allowed to protest? I can understand saying they give up some privileges for being on scholarship, but some rights are too great. There are protesters everywhere because it is a basic right.
Football players should not be able to because people will react more? Can we tell football players they can not own a gun because they might do something with it that we don't like? I don't mean for that to be hyperbole because IMO, that is the level of liberty people are upset about.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 2:14 am to Tigersessed
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It is the reaction to and the politicizing of the protest that is damaging the school. Words that college kids yell and post to twitter are incapable of causing actual damage. How people respond to those words are the source of actual damage.
bullshite. bullshite. bullshite.
In short, bullshite.
Posted on 3/18/16 at 7:39 am to the808bass
Bass - cliffs please 
Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:24 am to Tigersessed
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Because they are football players, they should not be allowed to protest?
No, the protest was bullshite. Full of misinformation and straight up lies. They got used. 1. No realistic person can expect what happened to be prevented (namecalling). 2. You are not saving a life on a VOLUNTARY hunger strike, where in truth he was eating while not in public. 3. Those same protesters used all the same terms in videos that they were protesting over...aka...fake outrage over the words, or racism from the protestors, take your pick.
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Football players should not be able to because people will react more?
Not what we are saying.
I, along with most people, will be generally supportive if it is something legitimate worth protesting over. Safe Spaces and hurtful words are NOT.
Furthermore, scholarships and spots on the team are NOT rights. If I were coach, anyone who participated in that BS protest would be suspended or off the team. They used their influence in an awful way, harming the institution and the state in which they reside. Period. Need to learn accountability and personal responsibility...oh, and fact checking might be nice too.
People are so afraid of being labelled racist, that they don't dispute lies. That is what happened here. Lies.
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Posted on 3/18/16 at 8:27 am to 5thTiger
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No, the protest was bullshite. Full of misinformation and straight up lies. They got used
Exactly this!!!
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:05 am to 5thTiger
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I, along with most people, will be generally supportive if it is something legitimate worth protesting over. Safe Spaces and hurtful words are NOT.
I think this sums up the situation well. People are ok with protests if they agree with them. If they don't, it makes them mad.
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Furthermore, scholarships and spots on the team are NOT rights.
Correct. That is why they can lose them for a number of reasons. However you can not take people's rights just because they are on scholarship. You see the difference?
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If I were coach, anyone who participated in that BS protest would be suspended or off the team.
IMO you would destroy football at Mizzou if you did that.
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They used their influence in an awful way, harming the institution and the state in which they reside.
I'm interested in your opinion, what is one specific example of the harm they caused?
Posted on 3/18/16 at 10:27 am to Tigersessed
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I'm interested in your opinion, what is one specific example of the harm they caused?
How much did minority applications to Mizzou drop this year?
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