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re: Michael Sam comes out.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 5:18 pm to Buck94
Posted on 2/11/14 at 5:18 pm to Buck94
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I think it's sad that everyone comes on here posting their opinions about Sam but one guy posts his opinion that others don't agree with and he is automatically a homophobic jackass. Which side is intolerant? Personally, I believe homosexuality is a sin. Will I change anyone's mind that disagrees with me? Probably not but it doesn't make me wrong.
Buck, it's not always the opinion expressed, it's the manner in which it is expressed. Your post is reasonable and it's safe to say that many share your opinion. I can only assume you were speaking about Mizzou1 and, if so, I can tell you what he said was WELL beyond simply saying he believed it was a sin.
FYI, my religion tells me homosexuality is a sin as well. I still don't think any less of Sam. Staying true to my religious beliefs and yet being tolerant, I can tell you I view Sam no different today than I did the day before I learned he was homosexual. He was a sinner that played for the University of Missouri before he announced and he's a sinner that played for the University of Missouri after he announced. And I view him no different than any other player on that team. He was 1 of 85 sinners playing for the University of Missouri.
I understand you believe homosexuality is a sin. I would also assume you believe that every player on the team is a sinner. So my question to you would be do you view Sam any differently than any of the other players since we know they are all sinners?
Likewise, Sam was a sinner before acting on his homosexuality and was a sinner after acting on it. So if he's a sinner both before and after acting on his homosexuality, do your feelings or thoughts or the way you view Sam change simply because he's still a sinner?
Simply curious. No compulsion to answer.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:09 pm to reedus23
Good points Reedus and Semo. We all fall short, no question. Should Sam be penalized? I guess not. Hate the sin, love the sinner. I've just had the feeling that a lot of people have been endorsing the lifestyle. Maybe not.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 7:56 pm to Buck94
I can endorse him, and wish the best for him personally and professionally, without supporting his lifestyle. I am a Christian, but I struggle with calling homosexuality a sin. That's because I don't believe it's a choice, I think for some people it's just te way they are. They are children of God, just like me, and if God doesn't make mistakes, who am I to judge them and call them sinners? I'm struggling with that one, honestly.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 8:14 pm to Buck94
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Good points Reedus and Semo. We all fall short, no question. Should Sam be penalized? I guess not. Hate the sin, love the sinner. I've just had the feeling that a lot of people have been endorsing the lifestyle. Maybe not.
Frankly, I have a much bigger concern with some of the other sins going on with some of the players. They are harmful to others and more likely to impact the team negatively. Sam's sin, if you believe it to be one, didn't harm others and apparently didn't negatively impact the team. And even if one views it as a sin, it was still gutsy for him to come out.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:23 pm to Buck94
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I think it's sad that everyone comes on here posting their opinions about Sam but one guy posts his opinion that others don't agree with and he is automatically a homophobic jackass. Which side is intolerant? Personally, I believe homosexuality is a sin. Will I change anyone's mind that disagrees with me? Probably not but it doesn't make me wrong.
It was how he said what he said. Say what you want about Sams lifestyle, but he's not bringing shame to the university.
I guarantee that you and I would disagree on a lot of things, but I respect your ideas and opinions.
I don't respect Mizzou1's view that Sam is bringing shame to the university.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:24 pm to reedus23
Good well-reasoned and rational posts from most of the Mizzou contingent.
We are the best. Right on.
We are the best. Right on.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 9:56 pm to Remote Controlled
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I don't respect Mizzou1's view that Sam is bringing shame to the university.
And he was even worse on tRant. Hell, I removed him from the Mizzou board because of what he was saying on tRant but got here and saw I was too late for the post here.
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