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Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:39 pm to wubilli
Posted on 4/1/15 at 4:39 pm to wubilli
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athlete is transferring doesn’t get permission for the other school to contact, the athlete would have to pay his or her own way the first year, under NCAA rules, but that a redshirt year could be used if an individual hasn’t used it yet.
So that may be the case in the ACC, but since J3 still has a redshirt, it would'nt affect him much. Just have to pay for a year of school.
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 6:59 pm to outlawjoseywales
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they were talking about what Rick Barnes inherited at UT. They were talking about how bad the recruiting class was ( shocking that another school has a bad recruiting class. Only Missouri has those)
The difference is ours is bad despite recruiting. There's is bad because Tyndall hasn't been allowed to recruit at all because of the NCAA investigation.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:00 pm to 5thTiger
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I'm not sure if I've ever heard of a 2-year sit out rule....?
I could be wrong but I think it's an SEC thing, not an NCAA thing. And if so, that would explain White only sitting out 1 year.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:01 pm to 5thTiger
And is this thing with J3 official now? He's met with KA and is still going?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 7:13 pm to reedus23
I have no idea what is happening. Either way KA is done after next year unless he doubles his win total.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:36 am to reedus23
I'm not sure if he has met or announced anything, but this mysterious 2 year rule seems like a wives tale. The ACC is the only conference that has it stated. SEC you would just have to pay your way for one year.
Won't lose any eligibility since he still has his redshirt. Can go anywhere.
Won't lose any eligibility since he still has his redshirt. Can go anywhere.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:22 am to 5thTiger
Nope, that's the rule from what I understand from what I've seen from Gabe and the Rivals guys. Either way, Mizzou gets to set the terms of his transfer and there's no way we'd let him transfer to another SEC school.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:26 am to mosoblkcougar
I really doubt KA will restrict where he can go. IMO, only pricks don't grant releases.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:45 am to 5thTiger
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I'm not sure if he has met or announced anything, but this mysterious 2 year rule seems like a wives tale. The ACC is the only conference that has it stated. SEC you would just have to pay your way for one year.
The best I could tell is this:
The general rule is that, with certain exceptions, when transferring, the athlete must be in residence at the new institution for one year before being eligible. In many instances, the player can use their red-shirt season while sitting out so that they don't lose any of their 4 years of playing eligibility. It looks like the SEC imposes the additional burden that the athlete loses one year of eligibility if transferring within the SEC. I actually couldn't find anything that said they had to sit out two years.
In J3's case, if he transferred to say UCLA, he could red shirt his first year there and still play 2 years. If he went to UT, he would have to sit out 1 year and then would only have 1 year to play.
Having said all of that, I know I've seen others write and say that the SEC has a 2 year sitting out rule if it's within the conference so who knows.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:22 am to reedus23
So are there going to be any good teams interested in J3? I have never been impressed with his play. I suppose someone might be able to teach him to play better but getting him to be a good big man is going to be tough. He was never able to defend his own space. How will he be able to take space from someone else? He just never had much aggression in his game.
He was the lead scoring machine on a team that was one of the worst offensive teams in tiger history. I wish him good luck and will be interested how this works out for him. If he does not improve he will be sitting on a bench with a good team or getting a lot of minutes on a shitty team. He already was in the latter situation.
He was the lead scoring machine on a team that was one of the worst offensive teams in tiger history. I wish him good luck and will be interested how this works out for him. If he does not improve he will be sitting on a bench with a good team or getting a lot of minutes on a shitty team. He already was in the latter situation.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:34 am to 4hrserect
A lot of good teams would take him. He was miscast in his role this year. His game is not geared toward being a leading scorer.
He is a great hustle, rebound, & defend player. With another year or 2 of physical development he will be able to finish in traffic.
If he learns the right hand then he will be all conference caliber player.
Just not a go to scorer.
He is a great hustle, rebound, & defend player. With another year or 2 of physical development he will be able to finish in traffic.
If he learns the right hand then he will be all conference caliber player.
Just not a go to scorer.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:35 am to 4hrserect
I could see him going to George Mason.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:37 am to wubilli
I agree, the athleticism alone will have high D1 coaches after him. Not to mention he has his redshirt to use. He is basically a JUCO player with D1 experience and proven quality.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:23 pm to 5thTiger
I don't see a Louisville or Villanova type school pursuing him. I could see like a Marquette or....wait for it...SLU. 
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:49 pm to reedus23
The two year transfer rule is an SEC rule.
And I could see KA restricting where JW3 could go-for example, any team KA felt might have been contacting him through third parties (his dad) would be candidates to be a the no go' list. I for certain would eliminate Arkansas as an option, just because SMA.
And I could see KA restricting where JW3 could go-for example, any team KA felt might have been contacting him through third parties (his dad) would be candidates to be a the no go' list. I for certain would eliminate Arkansas as an option, just because SMA.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:05 pm to tobythetiger
From Dave Matter's chat:
Next season is so fricked if he's even half right. Couple of thoughts. First, Matter usually doesn't get involved in the speculation game. He usually only gives info that's been known for a week and I haven't read his chats because of that for months. If he's not just talking about it in his chat but apparently getting set to write about, there must be some legs to it.
So, Bello is no surprise. That means we have 3 scholarship positions to fill. We're having a helluva job just filling one spot, I hate to imagine how far down the list we'll have to go to fill 3 spots.
And another 3 to 4 on top of J3 and Bello? Holy shite!!! I hope it's not true, but again, there has to be some things going on that give the staff some real concern or Matter would never put it out there. If it even ends up being half of that number that does leave, that's 4 guys total leaving, meaning 5 spots now to fill. I don't even want to think about having to fill 7 spots in this class. And I'd imagine that Rosburg is not one of those leaving. Not unless he's graduating this spring.
I so hope this stuff has no legs but it's so unlike Matter to put it out there unless there wasn't something too it. If true, we may not win 5 games next year.
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Dave, any insight on who else might/will transfer from mizzou bball program? If not, any educated guesses?
I haven't had a chance to write anything on this today, so you're reading this here first, but I don't expect Deuce Bello back next year. Formal announcement could come soon. I've talked to people around the program who have mentioned at least another three to four players who could be leaving, but at this point, lots of speculation and rumors and nothing of real substance on those guys. Stay tuned.
Next season is so fricked if he's even half right. Couple of thoughts. First, Matter usually doesn't get involved in the speculation game. He usually only gives info that's been known for a week and I haven't read his chats because of that for months. If he's not just talking about it in his chat but apparently getting set to write about, there must be some legs to it.
So, Bello is no surprise. That means we have 3 scholarship positions to fill. We're having a helluva job just filling one spot, I hate to imagine how far down the list we'll have to go to fill 3 spots.
And another 3 to 4 on top of J3 and Bello? Holy shite!!! I hope it's not true, but again, there has to be some things going on that give the staff some real concern or Matter would never put it out there. If it even ends up being half of that number that does leave, that's 4 guys total leaving, meaning 5 spots now to fill. I don't even want to think about having to fill 7 spots in this class. And I'd imagine that Rosburg is not one of those leaving. Not unless he's graduating this spring.
I so hope this stuff has no legs but it's so unlike Matter to put it out there unless there wasn't something too it. If true, we may not win 5 games next year.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:07 pm to reedus23
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I don't see a Louisville or Villanova type school pursuing him. I could see like a Marquette or....wait for it...SLU.
shoot I wish.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:21 pm to reedus23
As long as Fulford is here, I think we keep Teki. Rosburg isn't leaving. Clark seems pretty in. 3 recruits....At least we could field a team.
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Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:56 pm to 5thTiger
Bello seems to be a done deal. From there, it could be anywhere from 2-4 per Matter. Matter seems to think 2.
J3 - Gone
Bello - Gone
Rosburg - Not going anywhere unless he graduates early.
Allen - Don't see it. He's probably at a school above his ability level and was a pet of the coaches.
Clark - I just don't see it with him. If he was going to, it would have been over last off season.
Isabell - Likely candidate.
Wright - I think a likely candidate.
Teki - I think a likely candidate. I think any kid that transfers to a basketball factory in high school has the type of mentality to bail for what he thinks are greener pastures and transferring is nothing new. I think if they land Bryant, he'll stay. If they don't land Bryant, I could see Teki saying screw it, not everyone followed Fulford to Mizzou like I thought would and was told.
Gant - I think a possible candidate. I think he wasn't given the chances by KA and I bet he feels the same. He also never seemed to enjoy playing.
If I had to guess which 4 they're concerned about, it's those bottom 4 guys. Of those 4, if I had to pick 2, it's Isabell and someone. Flip a coin on if it is Wright/Gant/Teki.
J3 - Gone
Bello - Gone
Rosburg - Not going anywhere unless he graduates early.
Allen - Don't see it. He's probably at a school above his ability level and was a pet of the coaches.
Clark - I just don't see it with him. If he was going to, it would have been over last off season.
Isabell - Likely candidate.
Wright - I think a likely candidate.
Teki - I think a likely candidate. I think any kid that transfers to a basketball factory in high school has the type of mentality to bail for what he thinks are greener pastures and transferring is nothing new. I think if they land Bryant, he'll stay. If they don't land Bryant, I could see Teki saying screw it, not everyone followed Fulford to Mizzou like I thought would and was told.
Gant - I think a possible candidate. I think he wasn't given the chances by KA and I bet he feels the same. He also never seemed to enjoy playing.
If I had to guess which 4 they're concerned about, it's those bottom 4 guys. Of those 4, if I had to pick 2, it's Isabell and someone. Flip a coin on if it is Wright/Gant/Teki.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:04 pm to reedus23
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Tod Palmer ?@todpalmer 39m39 minutes ago
Mack Rhoades on 610 with Lake and Bink said he wants to make sure Kim Anderson has all our support in building men's basketball program.
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Tod Palmer ?@todpalmer 32m32 minutes ago
Rhoades said he's has a couple sitdowns with Anderson and Pinkel plus numerous phone conversations.
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Tod Palmer ?@todpalmer 29m29 minutes ago
Rhoades on Anderson: "He's got a plan and a vision for the program and we're going to do everything we can to support him."
My take..."In other words, no excuses for failing. It's all on you KA."
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