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re: If you were Mauk would you transfer?

Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:18 pm to
Mauk couldn't have been late to a meeting Monday, he was with his dad because of his surgery.
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:21 pm to
Was a student at SBU for like 6 years. If he went there, I'd actually go to a football game lol
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:24 pm to
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Mauk couldn't have been late to a meeting Monday, he was with his dad because of his surgery.

What about Sunday?
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:32 pm to
Don't know meeting schedules for Sundays, but you don't think its more likely roomies smoked a blunt and both got popped on a random?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:46 pm to
Well 99% of the rumors were about coke, not weed. Is it possible both got popped smoking a joint? Sure but remember the initial "official" statement said the reason wasn't a "legal" thing so that's why I don't believe the drug rumors.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 2:03 pm to
I was told that THC in the pee isn't a "legal" issue. Random drug test can't be prosecuted as crimes on their own. As far as the coke thing, I've said from the beginning I hope that's not true. But you know how when these things happen, the second and third hand stories come out.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 3:39 pm to
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Sure but remember the initial "official" statement said the reason wasn't a "legal" thing so that's why I don't believe the drug rumors.



just because they didn't get caught by the law doesn't mean it can't be an "illegal" act, which is of course a violation of team rules as they called it. It just sounds likely whatever happened didnt require them to be there at the moment it came out. Either way we are now in the Lock era and Mauks play wasn't taking any real strides to think he is going to get the job back.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:21 pm to
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just because they didn't get caught by the law doesn't mean it can't be an "illegal" act, which is of course a violation of team rules as they called it. It just sounds likely whatever happened didnt require them to be there at the moment it came out. Either way we are now in the Lock era and Mauks play wasn't taking any real strides to think he is going to get the job back.

The strongest rumor (and I realize that's an oxymoron) that I can cobble together from people in CoMo and some of the interweb self anointed "insider" types is something along these lines:
One of Mauk and Cuellar's Mizzou teammates either witnessed them with an illegal substance of some kind or just found said substance in their room, and that teammate reported it to the Mizzou coaching staff, who hence took action. Law enforcement seemingly has never been involved. Neither Mauk nor Cuellar has confessed yet to the illegal substance being theirs; obviously if either one confessed they'd be booted automatically but if neither one confesses what do you do? Boot them both? That would be I guess the only part still up in the air. Nobody has witnessed any "transactions" as far as them dealing any illegal substances, and the suspension is not for being a dealer, but there seems to be plenty of campus chatter to the effect that some how one or both of those guys was involved in some transactions.

Again, the above is all just rumor and chatter, but a story somewhat like the above is coming from multiple places at this point, both from different interwebs people and also on my end one of my Columbia friends heard something similar to that from a Mizzou booster in town.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:32 pm to
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He only played two years. Mauk would only have one year of eligibility left.



Would it matter if he were dismissed from the team though? I would think he would then be allowed to play next season. May not look good doing it that way but I think the school plays a role in how it works out right?
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:39 pm to
But wouldn't the presence of said illegal substance require police to be involved making it a legal issue? Someone would need to be charged with possession...correct?
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:45 pm to
1. Most of the athletes do illegal activity. Whether its underage drinking or weed, probably 95% have done either at some point. There are some strait laced, but very few.

2. Its pretty common knowledge that the football stars like to party. Mostly drinking and weed, but coke is around too.

I really doubt it is a "problem" as some have suggested, but rather a situation like any other college kid who likes to party.

If I had to put money down, here are the 2 scenarios that I can really see. Remember, this had to have happened between the end of the game saturday and tuesday.

1. Mauk and Cuellar were caught smoking weed (or coke, if you want to go wild)....either by drug test or a tattle tale.

2. They broke some team rule that isn't a big deal in the grand scheme....curfew, late to meeting/missed a team meeting.

I'd put my money on 1. Not a legal issue because the police didn't catch them. Having weed would not be an automatic boot.

This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 4:57 pm to

If this is true it would have had to have been a pretty serious substance. Otherwise why the rat?

And if true and neither will admit to it, I could see why Pinkel might have a problem reinstating them.

Finally, if true what the F is Mauk thinking?? His critically ill father is gonna be really proud that his dumbass son has sullied the family name and managed to (possibly) get the DGB treatment because of his own selfishness / stupidity.

Either way, it's not the kind of stuff leaders are made of.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/1/15 at 5:12 pm to
It could also just be a case where, as 5thTiger mentioned, they have been doing this for awhile but were wise enough not to get caught...but after UK and all the turmoil with his family I could certainly see a situation where Mauk either just deliberately said "screw it" and left it out in the open to get suspended and leave on his own terms rather than deal with maybe getting dislodged as a starter anyway at a time when he's dealing with his dad's illness....or a scenario where he's been doing this awhile but the combo of the UK game and his dad's illness weighing on him was just so much that he took it further than usual and got himself into a situation of getting caught out in the open somehow whereas usually he would have been careful enough not to.

I don't know. It's all just rumor but you all know how the Columbia bubble is, stuff starts flying around there like a high school hallway and although stuff gets contorted and twisted, its usually stemming from something somewhere that was legitimately leaked that shouldn't have been.

Plenty of kids in both suburban and urban America are encountering drug problems at early ages in high school. Athletes like football players who get early access to painkillers are some of the most exposed to it. We all know its just a hop skip and a jump from there to some bad addictive substances. To say nothing of how prevalent we all know weed is, of course.

It's just something we all have to be realistic about with high school and college kids in this country right now. I know we expect them to be "leaders" and what not but you have to realize the sort of environment they are in day to day and what they are exposed to. Some of them are bound to make mistakes at that age. Not defending it, but we all see it happen with the kids next door, let alone high profile college athletes.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 9:08 pm to
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One of Mauk and Cuellar's Mizzou teammates either witnessed them with an illegal substance of some kind or just found said substance in their room, and that teammate reported it to the Mizzou coaching staff, who hence took action. Law enforcement seemingly has never been involved. Neither Mauk nor Cuellar has confessed yet to the illegal substance being theirs; obviously if either one confessed they'd be booted automatically but if neither one confesses what do you do? Boot them both? That would be I guess the only part still up in the air. Nobody has witnessed any "transactions" as far as them dealing any illegal substances, and the suspension is not for being a dealer, but there seems to be plenty of campus chatter to the effect that some how one or both of those guys was involved in some transactions.

What a damn shame all around. I saw twitter chatter alluding to the dealer aspect, and I really, really hope that's not true. But I saw twitter chatter dating back to 2014, so the rumblings have been around.

If he was found with coke, and it's his...I think he's done.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 10:16 pm to
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But wouldn't the presence of said illegal substance require police to be involved making it a legal issue? Someone would need to be charged with possession...correct?

I believe so, yes. It's not a legal issue at this time because the coaches caught him and the police didn't. From that standpoint, he's lucky. If it's accurate that a friend and teammate turned him in to the coaches, I can only imagine how concerned he must be to have taken that step.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 10:37 pm to
semo...where'd your legs go? Or is it just my computer that isn't showing them?
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 10:47 pm to
It may just be your computer, my avi showed on mine.
Posted by MizBob
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2012
1149 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:37 pm to
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t may just be your computer, my avi showed on mine
My computer says your legs have expired.
That is what the avi shows anyways.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 11:54 pm to
Dammit. Now I have to find a new avi.
This post was edited on 10/1/15 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 12:30 am to
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My computer says your legs have expired.

Hell, my gal's legs expired years ago. It happens.

I KID, I KID
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