re: Give me just three things that have improved under KA

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You wouldn't have accepted that spin when Haith was coach. Don't accept it now.

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I get your point but Haith's teams had a lot more experience than either KA team. While I'm disappointed in how this year has gone I still think KA should get another year. I know I'm in the extreme minority but I just don't think we understand how shitty of a hand KA was dealt.

I would rather Kim get another year. When next year is relatively lackluster again, we can put the experiment to bed forever.

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I get your point but Haith's teams had a lot more experience than either KA team.

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That's partly on Kim. If he'd retained Teki and JW3, we'd have a far more experienced team this year.

And next year, Kim should have had a very experienced team and he won't. Because he's managed the roster more poorly than Haith could have dreamed of doing. At some point, the experience card is played out and you can't keep playing it. I suspect that if Kim isn't retained after next year, some people will be saying he never really got a fair shot.

It certainly wasn't an ideal situation, but he took the job.

I was really puzzled when KA was hired. But I have since bought in to the idea that we won't know if he can coach at this level until we get to his 3rd or 4th year.
I see glimpses at times, but it will all really come down to how he recruits. I would say that he has 3 solid hits in the freshmen class. If he can do that again with next years class, then he will be successful. If not we move on from him.

Yup has nothing to do with KA also inheriting a program on probation without his knowledge. Do you have any clue if players get wind of that sort of thing? I would think it would be pretty unethical if they didn't know. Bernie was on the air this morning talking about Crean going something like 8-48 his first 3 years @ INDIANA. Nobody would argue that Indiana isn't a top 10 job and most sane peeps wouldn't argue that Crane can't coach. They did however still show up for games despite being awful. I honestly think a lot of the program interest going down has a lot more to do with joining the SEC than anything else. We chose money over long standing rivalries and history for a shi**y basketball conference. I still watch every game, but I know I'm in the minority among many of my friends who were all watching every game 5 years ago. The middle of the pack of the SEC is about as boring as it gets. Also think the support all around the conference is pretty bad. There are 2 okay teams this year in KY and LSU and LSU has the number one pick in the draft otherwise that team would be terrible.

I'll keep saying it until my mouth bleeds. The BB program mess is on Alden. He is the common thread with Quin, Suitcase, Haith and the NCAA violations. He hired KA and did not tell him about the investigation.

This is an Alden dumpster fire, period.

Does Alden even attend BB games now???

I remember back in 2012 I told someone I feared, long term, that basketball would suffer with the move to the SEC, but football would be on the upswing. So far that notion has been right on point.

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Agree but none of know exactly how he was sold the job and what facts were omitted......either way I still think KA takes the job so he could "unabortion it".

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It wasn't an abortion when he took over. It has become one since.

Everyone acts like this was a total rebuild. It wasn't. He's turned it into a total rebuild. It remains to be seen if he can escape the issues he's created.

It wasn't a total abortion when he took over... Hahahahahahaha!!!! And they call me delusional.

The last season with Haith, what was our record?
Did we play in postseason?
What was the average home attendance?
What was the returning roster?

Haith was trying to get to a contract renewal. And he mismanaged his roster in the interest of short-term gain. Kim has taken the position that wins don't mean shite and talent doesn't mean shite. It's a bold move. We'll see if it pays off.