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For Mauk, A Short Trip From Folk Hero To Goat

Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:14 pm

This fella touches all the bases on this one...

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For Mauk, A Short Trip From Folk Hero To Goat

The entire column can be read HERE

By JOE WALLJASPER
Sunday, October 12, 2014

Early in his college career, Missouri’s Maty Mauk was a mysterious quarterback. He fled the pocket unnecessarily, he threw into crowds and he completed barely half his passes in an era when the best spread-offense QBs convert 70 percent. Yet, he threw many touchdowns, tossed few interceptions and won a lot of games.

Just how good was he? The only right answer was, “It’s complicated.”

It’s getting less complicated.

And not in a good way.

Mauk was far from Missouri’s only problem in a 34-0 loss to Georgia on Saturday, but he gave the Tigers no chance to win. For the second game in a row, Mauk was a statistical disaster — he completed 9 of 21 passes for 97 yards with four interceptions and a fumble — but this time he couldn’t produce a miracle finish to camouflage the stench with victory cologne.

Maybe, in the end, that will be best for his growth as a quarterback. Mauk has had a knack for going about his business in a way contrary to the generally accepted norms of good quarterback play. He usually came out smiling in the end. In his first nine starts, he went 7-2, including an improbable win at South Carolina on Sept. 27, when he rallied the Tigers in the final seven minutes despite completing just 12 of 34 passes on the night.

If there was no rush to change some of his bad habits before, there should be now.

For starters, there is the thing where he spins out of the pocket — often while the pocket is still a perfectly good place to be — turning his back on his receivers as he scrambles in an arc to the sidelines. In the third quarter, Mauk pivoted not once but twice before chucking an off-balance throw over the middle into the arms of Georgia defensive back Dominick Sanders. That was interception No. 4 in the game. That is two more than he had in four starts last season.

Mauk is mobile, but he’s not fast enough to outrun SEC defensive ends and linebackers to the edge, especially if he starts the race by reversing his field to the point where he’s 12 yards behind the line of scrimmage.

Mauk simply has to hang in the pocket better. Easier said than done. Blaine Gabbert heard that for three years at Missouri, but his happy feet followed him all the way to the NFL and haunted him there. Offensive coordinator Josh Henson might need to meet Mauk halfway and start moving the pocket on designed rollouts occasionally.

Something has to change. Saturday’s stats are alarming. The Tigers gained 147 yards. They didn’t convert a third down the entire game. They ran just 43 plays — half as many as Georgia — and held the ball for only 17:37. They ran four plays in Bulldogs territory, and three of them resulted in turnovers.

If that mess came against a legendary defense, so be it, but Georgia is a middle-of-the-pack SEC defense with a shaky secondary. South Carolina, with the worst defense in the SEC, also stonewalled Missouri, and the Tigers had a week in between to get themselves sorted.

Missouri couldn’t lean on its running game, because the line couldn’t get much push up front. Even with the return of Jimmie Hunt from injury, Missouri’s wide receivers weren’t helping the cause. Two of Mauk’s interceptions should have been caught by Marcus Murphy and Hunt. Even the reliable Bud Sasser had a drop.

In a play that was emblematic of Missouri’s day, Wesley Leftwich dropped a 62-yard touchdown pass on the final snap of the first half, but it would have been called back by a holding penalty anyway.

It was a failure so thorough, it causes a reassessment of what Missouri’s season can be. As recently as Friday, after news broke that Georgia star running back Todd Gurley was suspended for a potential NCAA violation, the 23rd-ranked Tigers were considered the favorites to repeat as SEC East champions.

Georgia refuted that argument persuasively.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:17 pm to
The hero thing was overblown in the first place -- his numbers last year weren't very good.

The amount of JF hate that was out there had a lot to do with how much Mauk was endeared.

He made some dazzling plays, but overall wasn't that impressive.

This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:34 pm to

I don't see any linkage between JFF and Mauk.

Mauk's hero status was based on being a redshirt freshman. You assume improvement from Year One to Two.

And while I haven't totally given up on him, his lack of short-to-medium range accuracy is probably going to doom him. The only hope I see (and the author concurs with) is that they start employing designed roll outs and see if his vision and accuracy improves while on the run. Very few QBs can make the kind of throw he made a couple weeks ago.

I'd love to know if he was a pocket or roll out QB in high school. I'm betting on the latter.

You can't set Ohio state records being this inaccurate.

shite, bring his old man in to help him (and Henson) out you have to.
Posted by JesusQuintana
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:39 pm to
Pretty depressing.

The problem with the entire article is the end. It's obvious Mauk isn't the answer, but you don't know that Printz isn't until you play him.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:46 pm to
quote:


I don't see any linkage between JFF and Mauk.



Then you're dumb. Mizzou fans disgust with JF had a lot to do with the positive perception of Mauk.

Everyone hated JF, he was dull, reserved, hardly ever took shots down field.

Mauk was the anti JF. Not reserved, not dull, shooting from the hip, going deep as much as possible.

quote:


I'd love to know if he was a pocket or roll out QB in high school. I'm betting on the latter.



He was a video game QB in high school.

Throw on 4 downs. Take 15 steps back. Run around all over the place until someone is open.

That doesn't work if you're playing legit football, which he is now.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Mauk was far from Missouri’s only problem in a 34-0 loss to Georgia


yep and when it comes down to it, how much did either Gabbert or Franklin improve over their careers? Maybe Mauk has hit his ceiling but based on how little Franklin/Gabbert improved, either we don't and haven't had a QB coach or Hill is about to work miracles with MM.

Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:57 pm to

Nice broadbrush.

FYI, I love JFF and showboats, in general.

My favorite highlight of all time is Deion Sanders highstepping the last 50 yards on a pick for the Falcons.

But carry on, young soldier. Carry on.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:34 pm to
Good article and thanks for that SEC. However, I don't think we can paste the entire article on here, just part of it with a link. Can you do me a favor and just delete like the bottom half of that article. People can click the link to read it still though.

As for JFF and MM, part of it was MM and part of it was just the fact that the favorite player on most teams is the backup QB.

MM ran a gimicky offense. The line would have like 3-5 yard splits. Like out of this world splits. MM would run around and then either sling it or run it.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

MM ran a gimicky offense. The line would have like 3-5 yard splits. Like out of this world splits. MM would run around and then either sling it or run it


So in your opinion is there anything the coaching staff could do (within the confines of the offense) to help him out and make him more comfortable? Roll him out to throw on the run? Sounds like he flees the pocket because it's not his game and all he knows.

Almost akin to taking an RG3 read-option / project QB and acclimate him to a pro offense.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:34 am to
quote:

So in your opinion is there anything the coaching staff could do (within the confines of the offense) to help him out and make him more comfortable?


The biggest thing that would help is MM changing. I don't know if rolling out will help or not. I just don't know if a scheme change would help.
Posted by notsince98
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:17 am to
quote:

-- his numbers last year weren't very good.


Some were. His TD:INT was very good. Now that teams have scouted him, he is most likely done as an SEC QB under this coaching regime unless they break tendencies and adjust the offense midseason.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Some were. His TD:INT was very good. Now that teams have scouted him, he is most likely done as an SEC QB under this coaching regime unless they break tendencies and adjust the offense midseason.


There is one interminable, inescapable truth about Mizzou football, it needs better coaching.

Wither the players get better, the fans get better, the facilities, the administration or what have you, the coaching needs to get better. It's unquestionable that there are a number of better coaches out there performing at a higher level and still a large % of the Mizzou fan base wishes to deny the obvious.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:02 pm to
Like who? Where can we get them from? Will they come here? Etc

Sure, there might be some that could come in and do a better job than Pinkel but history indicates they would likely do much worse.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Sure, there might be some that could come in and do a better job than Pinkel but history indicates they would likely do much worse.


are you selectively picking what "history" means? Mizzou was flat out terrible for about 20 years. The previous 80 years indicated Mizzou is capable of much more than Pinkel has provided.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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33366 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:15 pm to
Climate was different back then. Money has a MUCH bigger influence today.

With that being said. Pinkel has led two of the top 5 seasons in school history. Id put Devine, and maybe Faurot above him. That's it though.

Again, for all you "fire somebody!!!!" guys... WHO are we going to get?
Posted by TigerBornTigerBred
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

WHO are we going to get?


This is why we will never get anywhere,no back bone at Mizzou. Smaller schools have made bigger splashes, if we keep being defeatist like that we will have many more woodshed beatings coming our way.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:33 pm to
Some no name you have never heard of might be capable of winning a conference title at Mizzou. Why are you so obsessed with who?

The point is Pinkel has never won a conference title at Mizzou despite 3 quality chances. Even guys at worse schools have done more than Pinkel. We know what the ceiling and floor is with him. If that is good for you, that is your choice. If you want to win a conference, change needs to be made. That change, as with any change, COULD get BETTER or it COULD get WORSE but you know what you CANNOT get with Pinkel.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:37 pm to
Don't care about splashes. I care about wins.

Pinkel has two AP top 5 finishes. That's NEVER been done here by any coach. Not even Devine.

You guys who think he sucks are so far off base it's ridiculous.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:42 pm to
Those two top 5 teams hurt Pinkel's resume more than help it. He had "pretty" teams that voters were attracted to. They weren't good enough to win anything, though. How many top 5 teams does Pinkel need to win a conference title?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Some no name you have never heard of might be capable of winning a conference title at Mizzou. Why are you so obsessed with who?


Sure, I guess its possible in the sense that anything could happen, but its much more likely some no name is going to come in and do worse than Pinkel. Do you suggest a cycle where we fire a coach every 4 years until we find a good one again? When we already have one? Thats goofy.

Im obsessed with you because it comes off as rather silly to want to fire someone when your replacement is "Gee, I dont know. Somebody?!?!"

quote:

The point is Pinkel has never won a conference title at Mizzou despite 3 quality chances. Even guys at worse schools have done more than Pinkel. We know what the ceiling and floor is with him. If that is good for you, that is your choice. If you want to win a conference, change needs to be made. That change, as with any change, COULD get BETTER or it COULD get WORSE but you know what you CANNOT get with Pinkel.


No, the point would be that we likely dont get 3 quality chances without Pinkel. Pinkel's success has bred this idea that he isnt good enough, when in fact competing for conference championships at Mizzou was pretty laughable before he got here. You realize our last one was in '69 right? Not sure that should be the expectation. The goal? Sure, but fired for not reaching it? Ridiculous.
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