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re: Educate an Outsider- What's the Relationship Like Between Royals and Cards Fans?

Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:02 pm to
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Outside of the ribbing on here, which shouldn't be taken seriously, are there Cards fans in your personal dealings that constantly remind you how much your team blows?



I don't take the internet seriously. I attend Mizzou, so yes, there are numerous Cards fans who act like assholes in real life. Many of my closest friends are Cardinals fans, but after an ugly month of October freshman year, the KC faction and the STL faction of our friend group have learned to distance from each other come playoff time.

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either that or the perceived inferiority complex KC has is reality rather than perception


These are the exact remarks I'm talking about
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:10 pm to
I don't make that remark as a cardinal fan, I make it as a guy looking from the outside in.

I don't live in Missouri anymore, so I don't have a dog in the fight. It just seems like you guys all have a complex about STL. Like everyone from there hates KC or something, and it seems like no one in STL gives a hoot about KC.

STL has the same inferiority complex towards Chicago. Constantly worried about Chicago, and no one there gives a rats arse about STL.

Personally, both KC and STL are pretty much the same thing, I'd rather live in Chicago. Now, that's a city.

Just too fricking cold.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15512 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

I don't make that remark as a cardinal fan, I make it as a guy looking from the outside in.

I don't live in Missouri anymore, so I don't have a dog in the fight. It just seems like you guys all have a complex about STL. Like everyone from there hates KC or something, and it seems like no one in STL gives a hoot about KC.

STL has the same inferiority complex towards Chicago. Constantly worried about Chicago, and no one there gives a rats arse about STL.

Personally, both KC and STL are pretty much the same thing, I'd rather live in Chicago. Now, that's a city.

Just too fricking cold.


Fair enough. I think most of the KC concern with STL is due to the fact that when it comes to Missouri, St. Louis gets all the credit and attention and is a more nationally recognized city whereas most people don't even realize that KC is in Missouri, so Kansas Citians feel a sort of need to prove themselves and their city.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/18/14 at 10:24 pm to
Yeah, it pisses me off when people out here think KC is in Kansas.

It's all very confusing to them.

"How can there be two cities with the same name next to each other?"

I enjoy KC, and I'll be there in two weeks enjoying some BBQ and brews.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 4/19/14 at 5:54 am to

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Educate an Outsider- What's the Relationship Like Between Royals and Cards Fans?

Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:07 am to
You guys do know they also blew a call against the Royals in the fourth inning of that game right? Had they got it right the score would have been tied going into the eighth.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 7:20 am to

Todd Worrell was pitching, so it was probably the 8th or 9th inning.
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:21 pm to
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We forget they're there. Every moment of their lives is consumed with thinking how overrated/lucky we are. Trolololol


I can only speak for myself having grown up in St. Louis and living in KC. Other than Tigerboard, I've never heard any Royals fans talk at all about the Cards. There's no love or hate. The Cards don't enter into their thoughts unless the Royals are playing them. When that series is over, it's never brought up again.

There's more than good natured ribbing going on at Tigerboard. Sometimes there's outright douchery, but it usually goes both ways, no matter who starts it.

I root for both teams, personally.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:24 pm to
How many of you were actually alive for 1985?
Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I'd say Cards fans root for the Royals in the AL, especially if they're doing something. Like you cheer for your kid brother in little league. I'd guess the Royals fans would rather drink bleach than watch our annual playoff chase.


This is an example of what I'm talking about that goes on in the Shack at Tigerboard. Little league, really? Annual playoff chase? When I grew up in St. Louis, we went to the World Series in '64, '67 and '68. Before that we hadn't appeared since '46, 18 years. After that we didn't reappear until '82. 14 years. It can happen to any franchise, even one as great as the Cardinals. There's no reason to start caca and talk down to anybody.

At the very beginning Stan Musial played in the World Series. After that, the best part of his career, nothing. My personal hero, Bob Gibson, played in the Worlds Series went the first 5 years of his career and the last 7 years with no World Series. Those guys can attest to how fleeting World Series success can be, no matter how great the player.
This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5890 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 5:31 pm to
Most cards fans are okay to deal with. There are some that are very much like jayhawk and cornhusker fans though.

Those "types" are pretty f'ing annoying.

Edit: I was in Lawrence, ks this past Tuesday and saw a guy wearing a kU hoodie and a cards hat. I looked at my fiancee and said "I have zero idea who that guy is, but I promise you he is a giant douche."

This post was edited on 4/19/14 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/19/14 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 10:53 pm to
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This is an example of what I'm talking about that goes on in the Shack at Tigerboard. Little league, really? Annual playoff chase?

I'm just yanking the Royal's fans chains. MLB will have to figure out a way to revenue share a little better in order to keep markets interested like the NFL has done.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:26 pm to
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MLB will have to figure out a way to revenue share a little better in order to keep markets interested like the NFL has done.


Would be interesting to see this, but MLB seems content with the way things are.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:28 pm to
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As an outsider to the whole thing, it's very kansas/Mizzou-ish.


Yep, and that's why I refer to Cards fans as the St Louis Jayhawks.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:32 pm to
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Would be interesting to see this, but MLB seems content with the way things are.

They're on a downward trend, viewer-wise. It's probably not enough of a decline to make such a drastic change as this, but it may be in 5-10 more years.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 4/19/14 at 11:37 pm to
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They're on a downward trend


Tradition/history makes baseball great but also makes it slow to change.

Not to be that guy, but another problem is that fewer and fewer Americans appear in the game (maybe a chicken or the egg problem).
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 8:50 am
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 1:01 am to
I'm still pissed about 85 and Denkinger. I was at that game in standing room only. Guy was out by at least a step. Always disliked the Royals back when they were good, now I'm not much of a baseball fan so don't really care.
Posted by merlin1
Independence, MO
Member since Nov 2013
15 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 5:20 am to
I'd say Cards fans root for the Royals in the AL, especially if they're doing something. Like you cheer for your kid brother in little league.

I'd guess the Royals fans would rather drink bleach than watch our annual playoff chase.

This is fun.

^^^^^^
Easily amused.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 4/20/14 at 7:55 am to
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Yep, and that's why I refer to Cards fans as the St Louis Jayhawks.


Every team that wins over an extended period ends up with a percentage of the fan base that goes cultish - Kansas, Bama, Nebraska, Kentucky.

Maybe it's different on the Western part of the state, but the Cardinals cult around here seems to be cigarette smoking blue hairs who want to knit sweaters and bake cookies for the players.

So if they want to burn through their retirement money at the ball park instead of the slot machines, more power to them.
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