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re: DGB arrest rumors floating around on twitter.

Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:30 am to
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:30 am to
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I'm tired of hearing this Dixon was cleared crap. The guy was bad news. If you had a daughter at Mizzou you wouldn't want her anywhere around Dixon.


The facts are these, he was investigated by the COMO police dept on allegations and the evidence not only showed there was no rape but that the sex was consensual.

I'm not here to defend his character, but I also don't believe in convicting someone on a lie.



Posted by Mizzoufan26
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:32 am to
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The facts are these, he was investigated by the COMO police dept on allegations and the evidence not only showed there was no rape but that the sex was consensual.

I'm not here to defend his character, but I also don't believe in convicting someone on a lie.


Prove what you ate for dinner last night.

Prove the last time you had done the deed.


The law works on facts alone, and if something can't be proven doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 6:25 am to
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The facts are these, he was investigated by the COMO police dept on allegations and the evidence not only showed there was no rape but that the sex was consensual.


And that completely ignores the first time Michael Dixon was accused of rape.
Posted by notsince98
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:38 am to
Dixon was kicked out for his behavior, not being accused of rape or anything to do with rape. He had academic issues and he was a multiple breaker of Mizzou's code of conduct. Mizzou students felt he no longer deserved to be a student at Mizzou and voted him out.

He wasn't a good guy with the ladies but he was a damn good ball player.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:07 am to
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Dixon was kicked out for his behavior, not being accused of rape or anything to do with rape.


I thought he was brought up in front of the board for his actions involving at least one, if not both, of those women. Am I wrong in remembering it that way? If it wasn't how he behaved with them, what other behavior was he brought in front of the board for?

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He wasn't a good guy with the ladies but he was a damn good ball player.


Agree and think Mizzou missed him on the court a lot last year.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:32 am to
I think one of his behavior issues was recording the sexual activities and then showing other students on his phone while on campus.
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:02 am to
Got ya. Thanks.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:37 am to
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I thought he was brought up in front of the board for his actions involving at least one, if not both, of those women. Am I wrong in remembering it that way? If it wasn't how he behaved with them, what other behavior was he brought in front of the board for?


Any time your name shows up on a police report you get brought in front of the board. I almost didn't graduate because I kicked some druggie shithead's teeth out who attacked me in front of a bar in downtown COMO. He attacked me, tons of witnesses confirmed this, I didn't even get arrested, but had to answer for the situation because I was in the police write up.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:39 am to
This is why I said I wasn't defending his personality, and I, no more than any of you, know all there is to know about the young man. The police investigated evidence showed he was NOT guilty of the specific rape allegation made against him, by a girl who clearly didn't have a clue what she was talking about when she made her statement.

Maybe he was guilty in the previous case, that's something that is less certain, and there are fewer details. Again because someone isn't always a good citizen doesn't make every charge against them true.

I would prefer we don't have boards of children deciding the fate of their student athlete peers, based more on emotional avarice than any actual facts, which could be the situation in the case of Michael Dixon.


Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:55 am to
Dixon was bad news. Glad he's gone
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:02 pm to
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Dixon was bad news. Glad he's gone


Then I guess you'll also be glad when DGB is gone, since he seems to be "bad news".

Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:04 pm to
Newest reports have witnesses saying DGB hit a woman.
maneater
So if true yes, yes I will
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:18 pm to

We certainly wouldn't want to actually wait and see if some rumor floating around the internet is really true before getting all genned up and jumping to conclusions on what happened and what should be done about it.

So far we have 'unnamed source makes unsubstantiated claim', well hell, that's good enough for me.


Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:20 pm to
I don't see any firsthand report of somebody actually seeing it. The fact that she chased his car down seems to support the shoving but not hitting story - would a girl who just got beat up by a large athlete chase him down?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 2:30 pm to
I don't know if this shite is one and the same incident.

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Dave Matter ?@Dave_Matter 1m

Columbia Police have released partial incident report for alleged burglary incident. Suspect, victim, witnesses listed as confidential.


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Dave Matter ?@Dave_Matter 1m

Weapons listed on incident report: Hands/fist/feet
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 4:40 pm to
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I would prefer we don't have boards of children deciding the fate of their student athlete peers, based more on emotional avarice than any actual facts, which could be the situation in the case of Michael Dixon.


And a hearty lol.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 12:19 pm to
Matter article concerning police comments

We'll probably never know exactly what happened and will always be left reading between the lines. But it sure sounds to me like everyone knows what happened, but people, right or wrong, just won't say because they know what's on the line. If that's the case, not sure I'm comfortable with it. I'd hate to lose DGB but I'd hate to have someone who beat the crap out of some girl on the team simply because some, for whatever reason, refuse to say what happened or who did what. I'll continue to wait and see what comes out, but it's just not sitting right so far.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:14 pm to
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And a hearty lol.


A "student council" has no real business deciding much of anything beyond what colors they're going to wear to the next game. As we can plainly see, children are not qualified to make adult decisions.

It's not survivor, it's not who gets voted on or off the island, silly kids need to understand their opinions really aren't all that important, just their actions.

Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:30 pm to
I am not a fan of them and I could be wrong, but I think the Student Conduct Committee that dealt with Dixon is made up primarily of faculty. Also, I can't remember for sure, but didn't Dixon call it quits before any decision was actually made? I can't remember. Maybe a decision was made but he didn't go through an appeal process.

As for Dixon, there was more than enough smoke that I wouldn't want him near my daughter, I wouldn't want him on my team and I wouldn't want him at my school. Damn shame too because the team could have used him. I'm not a court of law so I don't need to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm just a fan and I heard more than enough to say frick him.

I'm really hoping DGB isn't heading that route. I'll still wait and see what comes of it all. But it really seems to me that all things are suggesting he hit/beat/whatever some girl and now no one will say a word about it because of who it is. Doesn't appear the witnesses are denying it happened, which you would think you would hear if DGB didn't do it. Rather, they are refusing to say anything. That spells trouble to me until we hear something otherwise.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:40 pm to
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A "student council" has no real business deciding much of anything beyond what colors they're going to wear to the next game. As we can plainly see, children are not qualified to make adult decisions.


The ultimate review of those decisions were to be conducted by adults. And Dixon withdrew before the adults made the final decision. Not sure how that's a fault of the system.
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