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Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:29 pm to the808bass
Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:29 pm to the808bass
ND has 1 big that 6'9".
It's an old school thought to think you have to have a dominant big. Sure it helps, but Mizzou just won't face many teams that will have those types of players.
It's an old school thought to think you have to have a dominant big. Sure it helps, but Mizzou just won't face many teams that will have those types of players.
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Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:30 pm to reedus23
We lost our top 3 rebounders (Post, Shamburger and Williams) from the 246th best rebounding team.
MGC had more rebounds than Rosburg.
MGC had more rebounds than Rosburg.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:31 pm to wubilli
That one big is an athletic big. It's not Rosburg. I know you're trying to find the positives here, but there aren't any when it comes to our inside game next year.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:32 pm to the808bass
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the808bass
Thanks for saving me from having to pull it all up. I was gonna pull up all the bigs for each of our opponents last year.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:36 pm to the808bass
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That one big is an athletic big. It's not Rosburg. I know you're trying to find the positives here, but there aren't any when it comes to our inside game next year.
Yeah, it's not a matter of dogging the team. It's just a reality that we're living in currently. It doesn't mean we'll get 0 rebounds all year. But to suggest that no one else has serviceable big men is wrong IMO. They all don't have to be Ralph Sampson college good to be serviceable. But you have to have some type of serviceable big.
I'll add this. Everyone says that KA's offensive system is a high/low system, feeding it through the post. That is NOT going to happen with this team and without a serviceable big, making those guards jobs that much harder. Rosburg couldn't do it as a junior and I don't think he's majically going to find it. We don't have anyone coming in that can do it. Gant does NOT play with his back to the basket like you need for that kind of system.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:43 pm to reedus23
It's not really about finding positives as its about philosophy. Rebounding and defense can be done as a team.
Mizzou can improve from 246th whether by improvement from a current player of from a yet to be named commit.
Offensively Mizzou was terrible shooting 2's last year anyways, can it get worse? I think guys like Gant, Wright, Teki, & Allen can improve that merely by spending lots of time in the weight room.
Mizzou can improve from 246th whether by improvement from a current player of from a yet to be named commit.
Offensively Mizzou was terrible shooting 2's last year anyways, can it get worse? I think guys like Gant, Wright, Teki, & Allen can improve that merely by spending lots of time in the weight room.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:48 pm to wubilli
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Mizzou can improve from 246th whether by improvement from a current player of from a yet to be named commit.
We will be a worse rebounding team next year than we were this year. Guaranteed.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 5:56 pm to reedus23
This is what I'm talking about Anderson has rarely had a big that his teams would throw it in to, have that guy make a move and score. Most of his teams have merely had bigs that can finish in the paint.
That's usually off of ball movement, spacing and off if guards that can break down a defense.
I also think that Mizzou adds probably 2 more bigs that can possibly help with the defense & rebounding. If not then yes Mizzou will be in trouble inside.
That's usually off of ball movement, spacing and off if guards that can break down a defense.
I also think that Mizzou adds probably 2 more bigs that can possibly help with the defense & rebounding. If not then yes Mizzou will be in trouble inside.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:05 pm to wubilli
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This is what I'm talking about Anderson has rarely had a big that his teams would throw it in to, have that guy make a move and score. Most of his teams have merely had bigs that can finish in the paint.
We don't have any of this.
They might get some bigs yet, but he just struck out again on a top big that he was supposedly in on. I think it's fair to say any big they land at this point was KA's 4th or 5th choice.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:06 pm to reedus23
I like your optimism wub. There's just no way someone can convince me, as we sit here right now, that this team is improved on the inside. Improved as a team? Maybe. But I also don't see that being by more than a couple/few wins.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:07 pm to wubilli
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I also think that Mizzou adds probably 2 more bigs that can possibly help with the defense & rebounding. If not then yes Mizzou will be in trouble inside.
I'm not exaggerating when I say that I'm not sure there are two available that we have a shot at. I'm not sure we're leading with any of them.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:13 pm to reedus23
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I like your optimism wub. There's just no way someone can convince me, as we sit here right now, that this team is improved on the inside. Improved as a team? Maybe. But I also don't see that being by more than a couple/few wins.
We will have less talent next year than we did this year. It hasn't been determined if that will directly translate to more or fewer wins.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:13 pm to the808bass
I don't know of any kids we're leading for. No visits scheduled that anyone knows of, the two JUCO kids are supposed to visit but not until like a week after signing day, which is odd. I have seen it mentioned that Murray will reclassify late after June AAU like Teki did and Mizzou thinks they have a shot at him and might hold a scholarship for him. I just can't see a 5* kid coming here as much as I would love to see it.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:16 pm to reedus23
It's been known for the 3-4 weeks that Bryant wasn't coming.
Think Gant can finish. he doesn't have any moves right now, can finish. Rosburg has been an ok finisher when he hasn't had to make a move.
Best odds for new bigs from last I heard were Woods (JUCO) & Edwards a 6'10 HS big from Michigan. Although neither are locks or anything.
The year of experience of those coming back is where improvement has to come from.
Think Gant can finish. he doesn't have any moves right now, can finish. Rosburg has been an ok finisher when he hasn't had to make a move.
Best odds for new bigs from last I heard were Woods (JUCO) & Edwards a 6'10 HS big from Michigan. Although neither are locks or anything.
The year of experience of those coming back is where improvement has to come from.
This post was edited on 4/4/15 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:31 pm to mosoblkcougar
You are right. We are not getting any 5*'s. I can save you from that heartache.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:39 pm to wubilli
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It's been known for the 3-4 months that Bryant wasn't coming.
FIFY
Seriously though, I'm sure I don't have to go back more than 2-3 days to find you posts of people thinking that we still had a shot at Bryant.
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Think Gant can finish. he doesn't have any moves right now, can finish.
I don't disagree, if he's given the opportunity. KA hardly gave him the opportunity last year. The good news there is KA won't have an option next year. But I do disagree if you're talking about finishing inside. That's not his game. He's a stretch 4 if anything.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:41 pm to wubilli
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Rosburg has been an ok finisher when he hasn't had to make a move.
No. Rosburg gets rejected by the bottom of the backboard. He can't finish even when there's no defender. And I've been a Rosburg supporter, if he's in the roll he should be in.
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The year of experience of those coming back is where improvement has to come from.
There are no bigs to improve with returning other than Rosburg.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:50 pm to wubilli
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ND has 1 big that 6'9".
It's an old school thought to think you have to have a dominant big. Sure it helps, but Mizzou just won't face many teams that will have those types of players.
You don't have to have a ton of size. ND is a good example. Our '12 team another.
4 guard teams can win. However, they all have a really good big (we don't and won't) and excellent guards (maybe, but will take massive improvement) and precise offense/ball movement/moving without the ball etc (didn't see a lot if that in year 1)
Seems pretty damn optimistic
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:51 pm to JesusQuintana
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You don't have to have a ton of size. ND is a good example. Our '12 team another.
But who was our 5th player that year? I know it wasn't Rosburg.
Posted on 4/4/15 at 6:53 pm to reedus23
Should said weeks in referring to Bryant. The coaches had an in home The day after word came out the we were eliminated. Still wasn't believed inside the coaching staff that he would come.
Gant in a pick'n'roll or pick'pop can be really dangerous. I'm Ok with him in that role.
Rosburg gets his share of rejections, but also finished around 60% in that role 2 years ago.
I've been harping on the guards, if Mizzou improves its going to come from them. Probably need 40 a game from Wright, Teki, & Clark next year.
Gant in a pick'n'roll or pick'pop can be really dangerous. I'm Ok with him in that role.
Rosburg gets his share of rejections, but also finished around 60% in that role 2 years ago.
I've been harping on the guards, if Mizzou improves its going to come from them. Probably need 40 a game from Wright, Teki, & Clark next year.
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