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3 poor play calls

Posted on 9/18/16 at 2:41 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 2:41 pm
My last post on this game and moving on for my own mental well being. Not trying to place the entirety of the blame on the staff as the players made a ton of mistakes as well but here are 3 missteps by the staff that really hurt us.

1. We have a 3rd and 5 from the Georgia 18. We had ran the ball on 12 consecutive plays and moved down the field. Lock had thrown two bad interceptions already in the half. We are winning 27-21 at the time. We dial up a pass and not surprisingly its thrown into double coverage and picked. Run the ball up the middle with Witter and even if we gain no yards it's a 33 yard FG attempt to go up two possessions. Horrible decision all factors considered.

2. Next drive. 3rd and 11 from the Georgia 41. Run up the gut and don't make it. Punt sails into the Endzone and Georgia drives 80 yards to win the game. This call is not as bad as the other two, but I don't understand being this conservative out of field goal range when you were just over aggressive in field goal range the drive prior.

3. 4th and 10. Ugh. Georgia calls a timeout prior to this play giving us time to set our defense and somehow we come out in cover 0 with no safety help and have Penton matched up 1 on 1 with 16. He was their only threat all game and the two previous plays Eason had tried to force the ball to him. If they didn't know where the ball was going then there just isn't much to say. BO was asked about this play and blamed the outside shoulder technique Penton played, which is accurate, but there was simply no reason to make this play that difficult for him. Should have dialed up a bracket coverage and either forced Eason to beat that coverage or go to another WR which had not been at all effective the entire game. Simply horrific play call on this down, especially since we had time to setup personnel and the play we wanted. Just awful.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:16 pm to
On #1 on your list. The TE was open in the middle of the field. That's a first down.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 3:26 pm to
Fair enough. I still don't agree with the call and that fact that he missed an open WR is even more justification to run the ball because he wasn't going well at the time and the running game was working.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5361 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 4:00 pm to
#3 Yes Penton opened his hips away from the receiver (which is odd for an experienced cb), but how does the slot get a free release? And no safety help even with as well as Sherills runs. And given the play of the secondary to that point, how does man to man coverage make sense?

But I agree, on to next week.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 6:56 pm to
Yeah, BO was right. Penton played the wrong technique on that play. Never give a inside receiver the inside release in 0 coverage because there is nobody back there to help you. He was beat right off the line. Shouldn't have been put in that situation though. That's a real tough task for any DB to try and cover that kid 1 on 1. He's too quick. Just a really poor decision and it cost us big time.
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 9:15 pm to
Game highlights

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Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:11 pm to
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#3 Yes Penton opened his hips away from the receiver (which is odd for an experienced cb), but how does the slot get a free release? And no safety help even with as well as Sherills runs. And given the play of the secondary to that point, how does man to man coverage make sense?

But I agree, on to next week.


Mizzou ran this same coverage against Kansas that allowed the game winning TD.

Why anyone would ever run Cover 0 on your own 20 doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You know it's going to be a pass more than 10 yards, yet you line up everyone in press coverage? I just don't understand the call.

We could have been playing Cover 1 with a safety in the middle of the field and the DBs 6-8 yards off the wideouts. Give them the underneath, let them have 5 fricking yards. They were in a coverage that dictated 4th and 2, not 4th and 10.

Your other points I don't agree on. Georgia expected the run on that play and a throw would have worked had Lock thrown a ball only his WR could catch, instead he floated an easy pick. Running on 3rd and 11 was the right call, wrong play, wrong running back. A screen would have been a better call here or an outside pitch. A gut run with Witter is just a "time to give them the ball back" play.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:54 pm to
Really discouraging to hear BO double Dow on these two calls when being interviewed.

Hopefully he is just protecting his play callers in the media, because if he actually thinks they were the right calls, even with the benefit of hindsight, well...I just hope he really doesn't think that.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

1. We have a 3rd and 5 from the Georgia 18. We had ran the ball on 12 consecutive plays and moved down the field. Lock had thrown two bad interceptions already in the half. We are winning 27-21 at the time. We dial up a pass and not surprisingly its thrown into double coverage and picked. Run the ball up the middle with Witter and even if we gain no yards it's a 33 yard FG attempt to go up two possessions. Horrible decision all factors considered.


I heard wiBO say he asked for Heupel to go for the end zone on this play.

I didn't have a problem with them throwing it, but safe - not into double coverage. A run would have been fine too, just protect the FG opportunity. You just knew in your gut we were going to lose the game on the final drive. Then it's 4th & 10 and you allow yourself hope only to watch it frittered away.

Still, there is so much to be pleased compared to where I thought this team would be at this stage, I can't bring myself to melt over letting this one get away.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 4:32 pm
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 4:53 pm to
I didn't have a problem with the play call on the last interception. 2 WRs were wide open. Lock just chose to try making a very hard throw over what the defense was giving him. Execution failed.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:11 pm to
Too risky. Way too risky considering how Lock played that second half and the way you ran the ball that drive.

You either keep it on the ground, or if you're going to throw it's a one read bootleg off of play action. Or a WR screen. Any throw has to be one with essentially no chance of being intercepted. 3 is essentially as good as 6 at that point of the game and the one thing that you simply could not allow to happen on that drive happened. You simply can not come away with anything less than a FG attempt right there.

Sure, Lock made a poor read and throw but he never should have gotten the oppurtunity to do so.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:24 pm to
That's too conservative for me. They ran their stuff, the play call resulted in 2 receivers being open. Both score of the ball is thrown their way. Lock made the wrong read. If he learns from that, this offense can be scary good the next couple of years. Especially once Crockett and Strong get fully integrated into the offense.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 6:55 pm to
Yeah, don't agree. Conservative was the call there. Got too aggressive and it's a major reason we lost a game we should have won.

I like aggressive football, but there are times when you need to be conservative and that was definitely one of them. You can blame any play on lack of execution and usually be right, but the staff never should have allowed him to be in that position.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:53 pm to
You don't run the ball with a 6 on 5 disadvantage in the box. You don't give up 3rd down hoping Witter can get back to the LOS. You don't put the true FR RB with ball control issues in the game instead of Witter. You don't throw a WR screen with man coverage on the outside WR.

That was no gimme FG. The right play call was made.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 8:36 pm to
Perhaps if other RBs were used before that point, we'd have other options at RB to use at that point.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:57 pm to
If no yardage was gained it was about a 35 yard field goal and McCann had a nice night going. The drive had a nice push in the run game going (many of those with a disadvantage box set up). Lock had a very poor second half going. Flow of the game, situational football. Your not conceding a fourth down by running the ball or throwing a pass that has essentially no chance of getting picked.

It was a very makeable field goal if you didn't get the first down with a conservative play call. The wrong call was made.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:50 am to
The prevent-offense with 13+ minutes to go pissed me off. GA wasn't stopping us, only we were stopping us. It was a Pinkel-type move but I don't think we'll make the same mistake twice.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:09 am to
quote:

It was a Pinkel-type move but I don't think we'll make the same mistake twice.

Agree with this. I think Barry is more cut-throat than Pinkel. he'll be more aggressive next time.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:02 am to
Lock had fifty yards passing and three picks in the second half. It was probably the smart move to play tight
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 11:03 am
Posted by mutigerz
Ballwin, MO
Member since Nov 2013
787 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:26 pm to
I disagree on 3rd and 5....Lock just made poor decision with this read. He should have saw the safety and looked to middle of field. Wingo by the way had destroyed his defender and had an easy TD in the end zone... no safety help

3rd and 11, was the perfect time to either go deep or sleep the RB out after clearing the DB's with deep routes. If he throws pick, its like a punt.

4th and 10 was an awful call....you can't go Cover 0 on that play. About as bad as 4th and Goal from 15 vs South Carolina.
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