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2016 SEC Football Recruiting Composite Team Rankings
Posted on 2/3/16 at 7:54 pm
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Posted on 2/3/16 at 8:00 pm to Zou brownmajic
We beat Vanderbilt by over a point. Not easy to do
Posted on 2/3/16 at 9:21 pm to Zou brownmajic
It's pretty sad to say the least. The next class has to be a lot better. I'm talking top 30 at the
minimum.
minimum.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:05 pm to TigerTalker16
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It's pretty sad to say the least. The next class has to be a lot better. I'm talking top 30 at the minimum.
It just dawned on me that Kentucky has a higher ranked recruiting class than we do...
Don't need to say much else
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:09 pm to TigerTalker16
Let's be real. Recruiting rankings mean next to nothing. What's the statistic? Only something like 44% of the 5* athletes end up making a significant impact on their team?
Would I like to see a higher ranked class? Sure. But it's nothing more than a dick-measuring bragging rite in the conference. And yes, I meant rite and not right. This conference takes it to a ceremonial level.
Odom and his team probably did about the best they could under the circumstances. I expect more from next year and wil worry if we don't see manor improvement then.
Would I like to see a higher ranked class? Sure. But it's nothing more than a dick-measuring bragging rite in the conference. And yes, I meant rite and not right. This conference takes it to a ceremonial level.
Odom and his team probably did about the best they could under the circumstances. I expect more from next year and wil worry if we don't see manor improvement then.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:12 pm to semotruman
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Let's be real. Recruiting rankings mean next to nothing.
How anyone can have watched the Mizzou/Bama SECCG and still make this statement baffles me to no extent.
Our RB's getting one arm tackled, and absolutely manhandled all across the field.
We have certainly hit on some lesser ranked recruiting classes in the past, but we have also not won a conference championship in my lifetime for a reason.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 10:28 pm to Mizzoufan26
Bama is on a different planet than everyone else. If that is the expectation then you'll never be satisfied.
I'd love to see higher rated classes just because it's funner to follow but we've proven you can win without them.
I'm not upset about this class, but Im no star gazer. Several reasons it rated as lowly as it did. As we move further away from last year's shitstorm we'll start getting more highly rated classes.
And if you want to feel better, we already have as many 4* players in the 17 class as we landed in the entire 16 class.
I'd love to see higher rated classes just because it's funner to follow but we've proven you can win without them.
I'm not upset about this class, but Im no star gazer. Several reasons it rated as lowly as it did. As we move further away from last year's shitstorm we'll start getting more highly rated classes.
And if you want to feel better, we already have as many 4* players in the 17 class as we landed in the entire 16 class.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:21 pm to semotruman
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Let's be real. Recruiting rankings mean next to nothing.
I'm sorry, but this just isn't true. You really think Harbaugh and Saban climb up trees and fly 300 miles to meet up in person with these 4 and 5 star recruits because recruiting rankings mean nothing? We don't live in a world where everyone is the same and equally talented. Some kids just have better size and a natural athleticism that others don't. We got 5'9 running backs getting tackled by a quicker 6'5 300 pound monster that was probably a 4 or 5 star out of high school when we play teams like Alabama or Florida last year.
The six SEC teams(A.K.A "The Big Six") that have gone on to win the conference championship all have something in common. It's that they recruited at a high level by getting 3 or 4 top 25 classes the 3-4 years prior. You need more than just a good coaching staff and player development. You need talent to win the big one. The first step to a championship is to win on NSD.
Gary Pinkel failed to recruit at that necessary level to win the conference. We got blown out every year we went to the conference championship.
Why?
Because a conference championship game usually features the two best teams in the conference and we are always the ones with the inferior talent. The whole "we don't need to worry about the stars by their name because we develop our players well" is coach speak bullshite. Yeah, Missouri has won the division 4 times in the last 8 years but what happened when we got to the conference championship game?
When you get to the title game, you will always be facing a good team from a top tier program that has recruited at a high level and develops those talented players just as well as us. In other words, if you don't recruit well, it will come back to haunt you in the conference championship game. You will be at a clear disadvantage and overmatched. You WILL be exposed.
I'm not saying we have to bring in a top 10 class every year. We just need to recruit much better than this if we hope to compete at a high enough level to separate ourselves from the other lower tier programs and win the conference. That is the goal, right? To win the conference? If you want Mizzou to do that, it has to start now on NSD so it can unfold a few years down the line. If not, it's just going to be the same result as the last 4 attempts under Pinkel in the conference title game, especially in the SEC.
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:26 pm to TigerTalker16
We didn't get blown out in 2013 and that team was easily good enough to win that game. Good enough to beat anyone in the country that year.
I get your point though. We could certainly do better
I get your point though. We could certainly do better
Posted on 2/3/16 at 11:40 pm to JesusQuintana
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We didn't get blown out in 2013
We lost by 17 points...
We've also been outscored 93-201 in our last 4 conference championship game appearances.
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that team was easily good enough to win that game
The defense got manhandled that whole game.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:26 am to TigerTalker16
2013 game was coaching, that was pretty obvious to me. They never changed their scheme and Tre Mason even said if we would have just stayed home and played straight up we would have been fine.
Recruiting rankings don't mean anything unless you are in the top 10. The talent level between us and whoever is #30 or #25 is very minimal.
Really the truth is Mizzou will never have a top 10 class and it's best chance of winning the SEC is to find enough diamonds that ever 2-3 years they can field a team that can compete.
Mizzou has to make those 4 and 5 star kids count when they get them though. Mizzou has lost too many over the last few years like DGB.
Recruiting rankings don't mean anything unless you are in the top 10. The talent level between us and whoever is #30 or #25 is very minimal.
Really the truth is Mizzou will never have a top 10 class and it's best chance of winning the SEC is to find enough diamonds that ever 2-3 years they can field a team that can compete.
Mizzou has to make those 4 and 5 star kids count when they get them though. Mizzou has lost too many over the last few years like DGB.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:22 am to Zou brownmajic
Also I just want to remind everyone that in 2015 Iowa had the 57th ranked class and was almost in the Playoffs this year.
I don't know how you can compete with Alabama, I really don't. Not when they pull in over 5% of the top 300 recruits in the country.
I don't know how you can compete with Alabama, I really don't. Not when they pull in over 5% of the top 300 recruits in the country.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 7:30 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 7:24 am to TigerCruise
Ok, a couple of things...
1. I'll amend my assertion. Outside of the top 10-15, the rankings mean next to nothing. Coaching, chemistry and drive are all more important, IMO, than whether your class is a composite 5.6 or 5.7.
2. Alabama is on a different level that pretty much the rest of the country. How have Georgia's and LSU's top 5 or 10 classes work d out for them?
There is a LOT that goes into a championship. That is catching lightening in a bottle. An arbitrary ranking of recruiting classes is just not something I'm going to gnash teeth about. At least this year after that perfect storm.
1. I'll amend my assertion. Outside of the top 10-15, the rankings mean next to nothing. Coaching, chemistry and drive are all more important, IMO, than whether your class is a composite 5.6 or 5.7.
2. Alabama is on a different level that pretty much the rest of the country. How have Georgia's and LSU's top 5 or 10 classes work d out for them?
There is a LOT that goes into a championship. That is catching lightening in a bottle. An arbitrary ranking of recruiting classes is just not something I'm going to gnash teeth about. At least this year after that perfect storm.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 7:55 am to TigerCruise
Bama, OSU, Michigan have the rare combo of recruiting and superior coaching. That's hard to beat. To win the SEC, Mizzou cannot waste opportunities like 2013. Instead of looking at rankings, look at the actual recruits. You will see outside the top 7-8, the classes all look equal and the rankings are based on an arbitrary point system. They reward programs that over recruit.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 8:17 am to semotruman
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That is catching lightening in a bottle.
It sucks for the rest of us that Saban & Bama own the sky, the clouds & all the storms
Posted on 2/4/16 at 9:52 am to Wtodd
Can we look at the positives?
1. Coaching staff quickly found some gems:
a. Josh Jacobs - Almost had him, but Bama finds our coattails and steals him
b. Dylan Hays - Central Arky commit. Everybody up in arms until he commits to Arky
c. Mason signed and came out of nowhere
2. Stars can mean development. That is, 5star ready to play immediately. 2star can mean either he's Mid-major quality or has some years of development to get playing time. That has been a Pinkel quality developing these kids. Theres every reason to believe this should continue. Why? Well another quality is finding these late unknown gems, and this staff is doing that to.
3. Staff looks solid. Not only that, when adversity quickly hit, Rhodes told Odom to get the best and he did and Mack open the check book to get him.
I think the Pinkel criticism is misplaced. Really? Obviously you've never suffered thru the 80s and 90s when K-State would schedule us for Homecoming. (btw KSU use to really suck at football). Pinkel isn't the HC anymore.
I see this staff as bringing forward the same qualities that GP brought here, but also not afraid to compete for the bigger fish. But that remains to be seen.
1. Coaching staff quickly found some gems:
a. Josh Jacobs - Almost had him, but Bama finds our coattails and steals him
b. Dylan Hays - Central Arky commit. Everybody up in arms until he commits to Arky
c. Mason signed and came out of nowhere
2. Stars can mean development. That is, 5star ready to play immediately. 2star can mean either he's Mid-major quality or has some years of development to get playing time. That has been a Pinkel quality developing these kids. Theres every reason to believe this should continue. Why? Well another quality is finding these late unknown gems, and this staff is doing that to.
3. Staff looks solid. Not only that, when adversity quickly hit, Rhodes told Odom to get the best and he did and Mack open the check book to get him.
I think the Pinkel criticism is misplaced. Really? Obviously you've never suffered thru the 80s and 90s when K-State would schedule us for Homecoming. (btw KSU use to really suck at football). Pinkel isn't the HC anymore.
I see this staff as bringing forward the same qualities that GP brought here, but also not afraid to compete for the bigger fish. But that remains to be seen.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 9:58 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:01 am to Stlox
I have asked this before on different sites and could not get an answer. Does anyone do a "proper and correct" recruiting class grading 4 years after the class?
2012 class should be graded this year, NOT the 2016 class.
Is there a site where I can find this out and get some satisfaction !!!!
2012 class should be graded this year, NOT the 2016 class.
Is there a site where I can find this out and get some satisfaction !!!!
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:04 am to outlawjoseywales
It's been a few years, but I remember someone did that.
"Best bang for your buck" Three coaches stood out:
Gary Pinkel
Bill Snyder
Frank Beamer
"Best bang for your buck" Three coaches stood out:
Gary Pinkel
Bill Snyder
Frank Beamer
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 10:05 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:07 am to Mizzoufan26
The two years prior to the Auburn Mizzou game AU had back to back top 5 classes, 1 play was the difference in that class, wasnt a wall to wall difference. THAT was our best chance in program history for a NC
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:14 am to mizslu314
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You really think Harbaugh and Saban climb up trees and fly 300 miles to meet up in person with these 4 and 5 star recruits because recruiting rankings mean nothing?
wrong. FIFY.
"You really think Harbaugh and Saban climb up trees and fly 300 miles to meet up in person with these 4 and 5 star recruits because recruiting is the life blood of a program."
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