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Defensive coordinator replacement

Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:43 pm
What pain train are you hitching to?


I'm in Clark's Corner

Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:46 pm to
I think Bundy already texted Dan, since Clark already got all those great Alabama reviews and Bundy never replied..
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:47 pm to
I can't help but root for Orgeron.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:50 pm to
That would be great on so many levels. Freeze would be working vs. his mentor.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:51 pm to
It would be one of the best Christmas presents we could ask for.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:52 pm to
There would be some legit fear in Oxford for that recruiting class.


If you think about it, we have the brand new high performing car:

Orange Bowl berth
10 wins
Bowl games since 2010
good graduation rates
NFL draft picks every year
No real criminal troubles


We just need a non-dick to sell it like Brewster did and possibly O.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

It would be one of the best Christmas presents we could ask for.


On the 9th day of Christmas, coach Mullen gave to me...
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Freeze would be working vs. the guy who hired him in a recruiting package.
Posted by Donnie Darko Dawg
Member since Sep 2013
151 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:03 pm to
I just hope our fans are reasonable. Until we start paying like one of the big boys then big names will turn us down and our most coveted coaches will leave us.

With Collins now out we now have zero coaches in the top 185 as far as salary. I'm not saying any deserve it; I'm just throwing that out there. 2.6 million to split between assistants isn't a lot, especially considering when big name assistants are getting around a million.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:05 pm to
Mullen certainly has ammo with this season to up those numbers.
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:13 pm to
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I can't help but root for Orgeron.


Him or Bill Clark. With the way Collins recruited Alabama, I think we will get Clark to fill that void.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:22 pm to
I agree, we should be beyond money troubles now with all the success we've had. I know the school has been taking advantage of it because I've gotten calls no shite every single week this season from Starkville.

I think we should counter offer Collins, it's not all said and done yet right? But, if we get Coach O or Clark I'll be fine.
Posted by Donnie Darko Dawg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:38 pm to
No, it's done. Collins is gone. Time to start our search.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24933 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:50 pm to
We were 12th in the SEC in yards given up per game. And you want to counter offer Collins?
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:56 pm to
I'm with you. Would be excited about Clark. And given that he's already been a HC, he's potentially a viable candidate to replace Mullen should he leave at some point down the line.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:58 pm to
Our assistant salary pool was set to bump up 20-25% this year BTW... Everyone is still getting raises...

ETA: Across MSU sites it appears I'm in a large minority, but I don't want Orgeron anywhere near our DC job. I'd love to have him on staff and wish we would pay him $1mil to get him here. Would be fine with him getting Turner's job and a Co-DC title if it means paying him. In his long career, he's never actually been a DC and called plays/schemes. He spent one year 2 decades ago in FCS as a LB coach. The SEC isn't the place to learn that aspect of coaching IMO...

This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:02 pm to
I wasn't aware that it was a done deal. and yes, I think Collins is a damn good coach, it might be because of the motivational aspects of his process and not his actual abilities as a DC. I think he is a good and creative recruiter as well.

His game plan this year obviously wasn't the greatest, and you know who I blame that on? Mullen of course, if it was a dumb idea he should have spoke up and said, "Hey this 1A 1B shite ain't gonna work." "Hey this bend but done break shite ain't gonna work here in the SEC West." Mullen is in charge.

Which is one reason why we probably won't get Coach O, Mullen's ego won't allow it.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:10 pm to
People need to make their god damn minds up.

Is it Mullen's fault that the defense was shite, or can we not go after big name coaches because they don't want Mullen meddling in their defense.

Taxman, you seriously need to take a break from the slam Mullen train.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112610 posts
Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:13 pm to
We've had a lot of success recruiting in Alabama recently, Clark would be absolutely huge in sustaining and building on that.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 2:14 pm to
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That would be great on so many levels. Freeze would be working vs. his mentor.

The amount of NCAA violations that would be committed would make the NCAA's head explode. They would open up a base in Mississippi
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