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Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:14 pm to 17theBears
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:14 pm to 17theBears
I thought the Collegiate Baseball poll came out today. It came out on Thursday, Dec 20 last year and Monday, Dec 19 2 years ago.
Surely we see it tomorrow...
Surely we see it tomorrow...
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:16 pm to engie
Yeah, I'd guess tomorrow or Monday. You going up for the first series?
Posted on 12/19/13 at 11:30 pm to 17theBears
I'm not sure yet. Going to try to make 6-7 series this year, but haven't figured out a schedule yet...
Posted on 12/20/13 at 12:54 am to engie
I'm gonna try to make most games. It's my senior year so gotta get em while I can. 
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:40 am to engie
Bonner just tweeted out that we are #2
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:51 am to jumbo
Collegiate Baseball Poll
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Eight Southeastern Conference baseball teams are ranked among the nation’s top-40, including six in the top-25, according to Collegiate Baseball’s Fabulous 40 NCAA Division I pre-season baseball poll released on Friday. Additionally, six SEC teams also are receiving votes in the poll.
The Collegiate Baseball newspaper poll is the oldest college baseball poll. Its birth took place during the 1957 college baseball season.
Collegiate Baseball NCAA Division I Poll
1. Cal State Fullerton
2. Mississippi State
3. LSU
4. Oregon State
5. Florida State
6. Oregon
7. Indiana
8. Louisville
9. Vanderbilt
10. N.C. State
11. North Carolina
12. Virginia
13. Miami
14. South Carolina
15. UCLA
16. Florida
17. Rice
18. Oklahoma State
19. TCU
20. Texas
21. Clemson
22. Arizona State
23. Lafayette
24. Arizona
25. Texas A&M
26. Stanford
27. Cal Poly
28. Kansas State
29. Alabama
30. Ole Miss
31. Western Carolina
32. Oklahoma
33. San Diego
34. Wichita State
35. Liberty
36. Tennessee Tech
37. New Mexico
38. East Carolina
39. UC-Santa Barbara
40. Coastal Carolina
Other Teams Receiving Votes: Arkansas, UNLV, Auburn, San Diego St., Fresno St., Southern California, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, South Alabama, San Francisco, Loyola Marymount, Brigham Young, Seton Hall, Georgia Tech., Mercer, U.C. Irvine, Missouri St., Pepperdine, Troy, Sam Houston St., Austin Peay St., Bryant, Florida Atlantic, N.C. Wilmington, Houston, Central Florida, St. Louis, Creighton, Campbell, Nebraska, Gonzaga, Sacramento St., New Mexico St., St. John’s, Cal. St. Bakersfield, Ohio St., Michigan, Southern Mississippi, Kent St., Illinois St., Appalachian St., The Citadel, Texas A&M-Corpus Christi, Southeastern Louisiana, California, Washington, Washington St., West Virginia, Baylor, Minnesota, Stony Brook, Dallas Baptist, UT Arlington, Texas St., Maine, South Florida, Connecticut, Virginia Tech., Pittsburgh, Missouri, Notre Dame, North Florida, East Tennessee St., Florida Gulf Coast, Virginia Commonwealth, Rhode Island, Charlotte.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:54 am to 17theBears
Seems about right. Surprised about Fullerton being #1 though.
Virginia is WOEFULLY underrated in this one. That team was largely freshmen last year...
Virginia is WOEFULLY underrated in this one. That team was largely freshmen last year...
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:57 am to engie
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Virginia is WOEFULLY underrated in this one. That team was largely freshmen last year...
Agreed.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 10:59 am to engie
Yeah I was surprised to see CSF at #1. They won't be #1 good at all imo. Virginia definitely should you pretty legit you would think.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 10:45 am to Tds & Beer
I thought UVA would be preseason top 5.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 11:12 pm to Tds & Beer
Have they changed the bats/balls from last season? I remember a lot of people complaining about them.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 1:51 pm to weedGOKU666
I think everyone should post their projected starting lineup. I'll take a stab first.
C-Garner/Collins/Walker I fully expected them to split time all year unless someone just outright takes this position. Cohen claimed he was impressed with all catchers this fall. Don't be surprised if you see Randolph behind the dish either. He had a very good defensive fall as well as hitting .316. This position is honestly anyone's guess.
1B- Wes Rea
2B- Pirtle
SS- Britton/Heck We should have a good battle going here for SS
3B- Humphreys Highest batting average this fall. He's going to be a freak before he leaves.
LF- Henderson
CF- Bradford
RF- battle between Robson/Armstrong/Vickerson
DH- Detz/Garner/Walker- A lot of this will depend on match ups and who isn't catching.
Friday- Woody
Saturday- Fitts
Sunday- Hudson
A lot can/will change with our staff and rotation like it has every year under Cohen. Someone new and unexpected always emerges.
Super excited about this season, grinders. I got a chub typing this.
C-Garner/Collins/Walker I fully expected them to split time all year unless someone just outright takes this position. Cohen claimed he was impressed with all catchers this fall. Don't be surprised if you see Randolph behind the dish either. He had a very good defensive fall as well as hitting .316. This position is honestly anyone's guess.
1B- Wes Rea
2B- Pirtle
SS- Britton/Heck We should have a good battle going here for SS
3B- Humphreys Highest batting average this fall. He's going to be a freak before he leaves.
LF- Henderson
CF- Bradford
RF- battle between Robson/Armstrong/Vickerson
DH- Detz/Garner/Walker- A lot of this will depend on match ups and who isn't catching.
Friday- Woody
Saturday- Fitts
Sunday- Hudson
A lot can/will change with our staff and rotation like it has every year under Cohen. Someone new and unexpected always emerges.
Super excited about this season, grinders. I got a chub typing this.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 3:10 pm to weedGOKU666
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Have they changed the bats/balls from last season? I remember a lot of people complaining about them.
No -- they passed legislation to change the balls -- but will do so slowly to protect schools that have already ordered tens of thousands of dollars worth of the current balls. The first time the new ball will be used, I believe, is Omaha 2015.
The BBCOR bat standard is here to stay. That said, MSU dropped or 25+ year relationship with Easton this year and will be using Adidas bats -- and we're the only team in the country that I've been able to confirm has got them -- which is, I believe, kinda cementing our role as Adidas' flagship baseball school. The Adidas bats are on the ragged edge of the standard and are MUCH "hotter" than the Easton or Louisville Slugger versions.
Obviously, they can afford to push the boundary, because they aren't mass-producing them yet and a failed certification wouldn't really be a big deal -- whereas the major companies have to play it safe, since a failed certification could potentially really damage them with a recall...
Posted on 12/22/13 at 3:12 pm to Requiem For A Dawg
Yours is pretty close to perfect IMO...
Only thing I'd add/change is that I expect Detz to be at 3rd quite alot, although I would prefer us jump in feet first with Hump here. I just don't think Detz has the feet or arm to defend small ball over there -- and his reaction time/range are pretty horrible. But based on what Cohen is saying, it appears that will happen...
Only thing I'd add/change is that I expect Detz to be at 3rd quite alot, although I would prefer us jump in feet first with Hump here. I just don't think Detz has the feet or arm to defend small ball over there -- and his reaction time/range are pretty horrible. But based on what Cohen is saying, it appears that will happen...
This post was edited on 12/22/13 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 12/26/13 at 7:27 pm to engie
Well one thing we know is Cohen is going to play who he wants to play whether its logical or not. Sam Frost had a throwing arm for 3rd base about like I do but that didn't stop Cohen from trotting him out there to play that position in roughly half or more of our games last year.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:56 am to Maroonmadness
What better option did we have last year? If Norris had just hit like he was supposed to, it never becomes an issue. But he struggled mightily and left us scrambling to find another viable option.
Starts at 3b:
Detz - 26
Frost - 23
Norris - 20
Hann - 2
It was either -- go with Detz who is a liability with range or go with Frost who is a liability with arm strength. We just didn't have a well-rounded option. This year, I think we might(Hump)...and they say Detz has gotten better now that he's adjusted to the position, but we'll wait and see on that one...
Starts at 3b:
Detz - 26
Frost - 23
Norris - 20
Hann - 2
It was either -- go with Detz who is a liability with range or go with Frost who is a liability with arm strength. We just didn't have a well-rounded option. This year, I think we might(Hump)...and they say Detz has gotten better now that he's adjusted to the position, but we'll wait and see on that one...
Posted on 12/27/13 at 5:39 pm to engie
Well after Norris was no longer an option I personally would have played Detz there consistently unless he just needed a break. It wasn't just Frost's arm strength it was also his accuracy. Frost consistently threw the ball away from 3rd for the 2 years he played over there. Yes, he had more range but it was not enough difference when he couldn't make normal throws that 3rd basemen have to make. The only time it was an advantage having him there was on bunts OR balls he cut off between 3rd and SS. And that's because on those plays he could use his quickness combined with the fact that in those situations the throw to first is significantly shorter. I'm just thankful Detz was over there at 3rd on the last out at Virginia or we many never have seen the CWS.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:06 pm to Maroonmadness
Range and defense is still a huge deal to Cohen. Rightly or wrongly. You can see it in who he plays in the outfield and basically sticks with regardless.
Range gets skewed in stats too -- because Frost could make plays to get to balls but throw them away for an E -- while Detz couldn't get there -- and it would simply go in the books as a base hit.
Personally, I want it to be Humphreys' job from day 1. Let him go through growing pains and learn on the fly in the non-con, so he's ready for SEC play. I think he's got SEC Freshman of the Year potential. Let Detz DH. That said, I don't necessarily expect to see that happen. So, I hope Detz has improved vastly at the position.
Range gets skewed in stats too -- because Frost could make plays to get to balls but throw them away for an E -- while Detz couldn't get there -- and it would simply go in the books as a base hit.
Personally, I want it to be Humphreys' job from day 1. Let him go through growing pains and learn on the fly in the non-con, so he's ready for SEC play. I think he's got SEC Freshman of the Year potential. Let Detz DH. That said, I don't necessarily expect to see that happen. So, I hope Detz has improved vastly at the position.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:06 pm to engie
Anybody going to the first pitch banquet that can bring an exclusive report to the grindrant?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:39 pm to Tds & Beer
My bet is diamondawg
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